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Old September 4th 04, 10:09 PM
Keith Fletcher
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I just know I'm going to get blasted for this, but:

Robert does a pretty good job of getting close to lying w/o techinically
lying. Or if he lies, it's the standard politician's way way of lying: 'to
intentionally mislead or leave a wrong impression', def no. 2 in my
Websters. This is no different from any attack ad you see from *either* of
the political parties' advocates (e.g., 'I'm a swift boat veteran and I
served with John Kerry' ... while that statement is technically correct, it
turns out 'served with' simply means 'was somewhere in Vietnam at the same
time and never even saw the guy.') If we are going to go after people for
lying, I'd rather we go after those ()*$)() political hacks who feed that
crap to the ignorant, who then eat it up.

Chambers is a great salesman, and that's it. He's as American as apple pie.
If he can sell a thing for twice what it's worth, well ... that's good
capitalism. In the big scheme of things, he's much more honest than many of
the spin doctors we see on TV or hear on radio. Think Rush Limbaugh --
let's get that fat liar outta here -- or Sean Hannity. Or Al Franken. They
do a hell of a lot more damage to this country, and lie more blatantly, than
does Mr. Chambers with his over-priced coins.

Chambers likes to compare his prices to 'The Leading Numismatic Catalogue.'
The truth is, that Littleton catalogue he shows does have the prices he
claims, and probably is indeed the 'leading numismatic catalogue.' He often
uses the fact that low value coins -- VG walkers, for exmple -- are indeed
listed w/ a substantial premium in most catalogues, but only because it is a
pain in the neck to have to keep that common stuff around. Thus the
oft-mentioned and in me, fear-inducing 'numismatic avalanche' (Ouch! That
would hurt!)

I for one would miss the show if it were gone (though I've never bought
anything from it). Plus I have a thing for Julie Tello. It's her voice.

I think sometimes we don't give people enough credit. I remember that when
I discovered that my first big purchase -- an 1880-s Morgan graded by ACG as
MS-67 -- was not really MS-67, I felt like a fool. But rather than leave
the hobby, I knuckled down and learned something about it, and I have since
done quite well.

I suspect many people are being brought into the hobby by Chambers and that
most of them eventually wise up and purchase their coins elsewhere. His
show is a net plus, in terms of adding collectors. Heck, I think it is a
HUGE plus. I can think of no other way that coin collecting can get such
wide publicity and reach such a large market.

Bob is OK in my book.

Lying politicos are not OK, nor are the fools who believe them.

--Keith


"Larry W" wrote in message
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"Mike Kirouac" wrote in message
news:F8HQc.24096$Oi.17505@fed1read04...
New to this. I've watch the show and compared prices to the current Red
Book. And it does not seem like good deals. But he talks about the

latest
catalogs and says they are a good deal.

Is he full of BS or is it a fair deal?

Mike


We need to understand that the bulk of SAH customers are those that don't
want to take the time to "shop around," let alone research what are truly
"honest values." Coupled together with the compulsive buying factor, many

of
those that don't have time to research and compare, also don't have the

time
to go through the hassle of repackaging and driving across town to UPS
terminal to return and item that they little about or find it isn't "too"
disappointing. SAH customers are paying dearly for this lazy boy chair
convenience. Lots of people have the disposable income to satisfy these
instant whims.

I stopped counting at 12 the blatant lies I caught ROBERT CHAMBERS in.

Also
I stopped confronting with him with email after sending him 3 that he

never
responded to.

The best thing to do is listen and DOCUMENT EVERYTHING CAREFULLY. We could
even act together collectively and form a new newsgroup for that specific
purouse. A good old VCR and copies of email complaints you send are an
important tool when presenting genuine compaints of fraud and
misrepresentation to you state Attorney General. If ay state orders SAH to
stop operations in that state, I'll bet SAH and ROBERT CHAMBERS.

Larry





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