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Newbie question.
Hi all!
I'm new in stamps collecting and I have a question that may seem stupid to you but...;-) I am on Vatican's mailing list and I received their order form for the latest stamps. In the included leaflet for a certain stamp I read: Valore facciale: 0,60 euros Foglio da: 10 francobolli On the order form I see for the same stamp: Price 0,60 euros And then if I want to order "Mint Sets", "Cancelled Sets" etc. My question is what does "Mint set" means?! Sure, I know what a mint set in coins is but I don't know what it is in stamps! Is a "Mint Set" the entire "Foglio", meaning 10 stamps? So when I order 1 Mint Set does it mean that I'm actually ordering 10 stamps so I have to multiply the price reported above (0,60 euros) per 10? TIA even if my question seems stupid to you;-) -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
Newbie question.
On Mar 11, 3:09*pm, "gogu" wrote:
Hi all! I'm new in stamps collecting and I have a question that may seem stupid to you but...;-) I am on Vatican's mailing list and I received their order form for the latest stamps. In the included leaflet for a certain stamp I read: Valore facciale: 0,60 euros Foglio da: 10 francobolli On the order form I see for the same stamp: Price 0,60 euros And then if I want to order "Mint Sets", "Cancelled Sets" etc. My question is what does "Mint set" means?! Sure, I know what a mint set in coins is but I don't know what it is in stamps! Is a "Mint Set" the entire "Foglio", meaning 10 stamps? So when I order 1 Mint Set does it mean that I'm actually ordering 10 stamps so I have to multiply the price reported above (0,60 euros) per 10? TIA even if my question seems stupid to you;-) -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! * *F.d.A Coins, travels and mohttp://s208.photobucket.com/albums/b...org/index.html Hello: In the case of stamp collecting, a mint (not cancelled or used) set is a set of 1 copy of each DIFFERENT stamp in the set. So if your Vatican set has only one stamp, then the mint set also has only one stamp. Price 60 Euro cents. A "foglio" is Italian for a sheet. In your case, the stamp was printed in sheets of ten stamps, so the price of the sheet is six Euros. Mint stamps can be mint and have been hinged (MH) or mint NOT hinged (MNH). The hinged stamps will be missing some gum on the back. Mint hinged stamps may sell for less than mint NOT hinged stamps. I hope that this helps you. Blair |
Newbie question.
"gogu" snip wrote in message ...
snip Due to the return address (which I won't translate from Romanian) this posting is not appropriate for this newsgroup. -- Victor Manta, PWO, AIJP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Newbie question.
? "Blair (TC)" ?????? ??? ??????
... On Mar 11, 3:09 pm, "gogu" wrote: Hi all! I'm new in stamps collecting and I have a question that may seem stupid to you but...;-) I am on Vatican's mailing list and I received their order form for the latest stamps. In the included leaflet for a certain stamp I read: Valore facciale: 0,60 euros Foglio da: 10 francobolli On the order form I see for the same stamp: Price 0,60 euros And then if I want to order "Mint Sets", "Cancelled Sets" etc. My question is what does "Mint set" means?! Sure, I know what a mint set in coins is but I don't know what it is in stamps! Is a "Mint Set" the entire "Foglio", meaning 10 stamps? So when I order 1 Mint Set does it mean that I'm actually ordering 10 stamps so I have to multiply the price reported above (0,60 euros) per 10? TIA even if my question seems stupid to you;-) Hello: In the case of stamp collecting, a mint (not cancelled or used) set is a set of 1 copy of each DIFFERENT stamp in the set. So if your Vatican set has only one stamp, then the mint set also has only one stamp. Price 60 Euro cents. A "foglio" is Italian for a sheet. In your case, the stamp was printed in sheets of ten stamps, so the price of the sheet is six Euros. Mint stamps can be mint and have been hinged (MH) or mint NOT hinged (MNH). The hinged stamps will be missing some gum on the back. Mint hinged stamps may sell for less than mint NOT hinged stamps. I hope that this helps you. Blair ------------ Thanks a lot Blair, you were of great help! -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
Newbie question.
? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ??????
... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... snip Due to the return address (which I won't translate from Romanian) this posting is not appropriate for this newsgroup. ??? You are wrong! This is a spamtrap address and of course it's a "retaliation" to some neo-nazi conationals! If you have a problem with the address and don't care about the content of the posting...what can I say... Anyway, I don't recall anyone asking you to translate my spamtrap address... -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html -- Victor Manta, PWO, AIJP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Newbie question.
"gogu" snip wrote in message ...
? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ?????? ... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... snip Due to the return address (which I won't translate from Romanian) this posting is not appropriate for this newsgroup. ??? You are wrong! This is a spamtrap address and of course it's a "retaliation" to some neo-nazi conationals! If you have a problem with the address and don't care about the content of the posting...what can I say... Anyway, I don't recall anyone asking you to translate my spamtrap address... From the RCSD Charter: "Language: Rec.collecting.stamps.discuss is an international forum and articles may be posted in any language. Since the continuation of the hobby requires that we involve children and make them interested and comfortable as collectors, profanity is prohibited (and is truly unnecessary for discussing stamps). " http://www.pwmo.org/rcsd-charter-and-faq.htm Because the e-mail address of the poster is obviously _obscene_ for any Romanian speaking person (and for this reason a translation of it would again infringe our Charter), anything he writes doesn't belong to this ng. -- Victor Manta, PWO, AIJP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Newbie question.
? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ??????
... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... ? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ?????? ... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... snip Due to the return address (which I won't translate from Romanian) this posting is not appropriate for this newsgroup. ??? You are wrong! This is a spamtrap address and of course it's a "retaliation" to some neo-nazi conationals! If you have a problem with the address and don't care about the content of the posting...what can I say... Anyway, I don't recall anyone asking you to translate my spamtrap address... From the RCSD Charter: "Language: Rec.collecting.stamps.discuss is an international forum and articles may be posted in any language. Since the continuation of the hobby requires that we involve children and make them interested and comfortable as collectors, profanity is prohibited (and is truly unnecessary for discussing stamps). " http://www.pwmo.org/rcsd-charter-and-faq.htm Because the e-mail address of the poster is obviously _obscene_ for any Romanian speaking person (and for this reason a translation of it would again infringe our Charter), anything he writes doesn't belong to this ng. Romanul tot Roman... Ba si constipat pe deasupra... Sa nu mentinoam si gindirea comunista de a controla totul si a interzice ce nu ii place... Sinteti de plins tataie, nu de geaba toata lumea va considera niste inapoiati si primitivi... Apropo, nicaieri nu spune nimic de...adrese! Vorbeste de "language of discussion" si nu de "adrese nedorite de niste complexati"! Dar repet: romanul provincial tot roman provincial... Si tot comunist... Apropo, cine te a facut moderator?... Lasa, intrebarea era retorica. Mi-e lehamite de alde voi comunistilor! -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
Newbie question.
"gogu" wrote in message
... ? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ?????? ... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... ? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ?????? ... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... snip Due to the return address (which I won't translate from Romanian) this posting is not appropriate for this newsgroup. ??? You are wrong! This is a spamtrap address and of course it's a "retaliation" to some neo-nazi conationals! If you have a problem with the address and don't care about the content of the posting...what can I say... Anyway, I don't recall anyone asking you to translate my spamtrap address... From the RCSD Charter: "Language: Rec.collecting.stamps.discuss is an international forum and articles may be posted in any language. Since the continuation of the hobby requires that we involve children and make them interested and comfortable as collectors, profanity is prohibited (and is truly unnecessary for discussing stamps). " http://www.pwmo.org/rcsd-charter-and-faq.htm Because the e-mail address of the poster is obviously _obscene_ for any Romanian speaking person (and for this reason a translation of it would again infringe our Charter), anything he writes doesn't belong to this ng. Romanul tot Roman... snip This posting, written in Romanian to hide its uncivilized contents from the majority of participants, also violates our charter: "The following are prohibited: Unsubstantiated adverse comments about any collector or dealer. " http://www.pwmo.org/rcsd-charter-and-faq.htm -- Victor Manta, PWO, AIJP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Newbie question.
? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ??????
... "gogu" wrote in message ... "The following are prohibited: Unsubstantiated adverse comments about any collector or dealer. " I tried, you don't want to understand...you are hopeless. So if you don't like something in my postings please in the future restrain yourself from answering. You are not welcomed. -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
Newbie question.
"gogu" snip wrote in message ...
? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ?????? ... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... "The following are prohibited: Unsubstantiated adverse comments about any collector or dealer. " I tried, you don't want to understand...you are hopeless. So if you don't like something in my postings please in the future restrain yourself from answering. You are not welcomed. We in this ng are interested in stamps and most of us collect them for a long time. It is common knowledge that the participants are not interested in novelties like "spamtraps", "retaliation", foul language, etc. Therefore to bring something useful here get a life, for example by collecting stamps! -- Victor Manta |
Newbie question.
? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ??????
... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... ? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ?????? ... "gogu" snip wrote in message ... "The following are prohibited: Unsubstantiated adverse comments about any collector or dealer. " I tried, you don't want to understand...you are hopeless. So if you don't like something in my postings please in the future restrain yourself from answering. You are not welcomed. We in this ng are interested in stamps and most of us collect them for a long time. I'm in the coin collecting and I'm collecting them for a long time, so what?! Are you going to engage in children talking like "mine is bigger than yours"?! Go on but don't expect me to follow you in your little flame wars! It is common knowledge that the participants are not interested in novelties like "spamtraps", "retaliation", foul language, etc. You are the one to bring it up, you are acting like internet police! If you were not mentioning it nobody would have a problem! Obviously you are ill educated and interested in flame wars! Go on, you are alone in this one! Therefore to bring something useful here get a life, for example by collecting stamps! Obviously you are in flame wars! Well, I can't help you in that, you are alone! As for that "get a life" it certainly characterizes you... So just to imitate you "get a life" and stop acting like a securitate agent. Pathetic. I also said that it would be better to stop answering my postings if you dislike them but I see that you are uneducated enough to respect my wish. Well, not a surprise I must say. Shalom. -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
Newbie question.
In , on 03/12/2012
at 11:22 PM, "gogu" said: I also said that it would be better to stop answering my postings Seems off that this has gone on now for several volleys. gogu, I've seen your posts for years in the coin group, and nobody's bothered to question your return address. I don't see an issue with it, and I don't care what it says in whatever language it says. There are apparently rules here you are on the fringes of violating, but at the same time, Blair seems to have answered your question in great detail ... very helpful. Most people here are, unlike the coin group where bickering is rampant. I think it would be wonderful if we dropped this particular branch of the thread. If there are any children from Romania listening, please chime in now. I wonder if there are any children at all participating. Nick |
Newbie question.
Ο "Nick Knight" έγραψε στο μήνυμα
... In , on 03/12/2012 at 11:22 PM, "gogu" said: I also said that it would be better to stop answering my postings Seems off that this has gone on now for several volleys. gogu, I've seen your posts for years in the coin group, and nobody's bothered to question your return address. I don't see an issue with it, and I don't care what it says in whatever language it says. Thank you for being fair! There are apparently rules here you are on the fringes of violating, but at the same time, Blair seems to have answered your question in great detail ... very helpful. Indeed and I thanked him for his kindness! Most people here are, unlike the coin group where bickering is rampant. Sadly... I think it would be wonderful if we dropped this particular branch of the thread. As you can see I have already dropped it when I said that I'm not interested in flame wars! I also asked that "gentleman" if he is so upset from my spamtrap address to ignore my postings in the future. I suppose I can do nothing more to stop him from flaming... If there are any children from Romania listening, please chime in now. I wonder if there are any children at all participating. LOL Obviously there are not any children around but some people are constipated (excuse my French). People like him (plus trolls and flamers) are the main reason usenet is dying. After this bad experience I'm seriously considering dropping my new started hobby (actually it's the regeneration of an older hobby)... Anyway, thanks again for being fair and supporting my POV that a spamtrap address has nothing to do with the content of a posting! You know how much I hate flame wars and nasty posters like the few we have in the coins group. I just asked a question and I received a helpful answer from one poster and an ad hominem attack by another poster; I suppose this is usenet... Anyway, for me this matter is closed. -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html Nick |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
"gogu" snip wrote in message ...
Ο "Nick Knight" έγραψε στο μήνυμα Most people here are [very helpful - NK], unlike the coin group where bickering is rampant. Sadly... Follows a posting of "gogu", of Dec. 13, 2006, just as an example of the mentioned "bickering". I found it through Google Groups, on RCC, as the 1st of 7,340 results for "gogu"; it is heavily cross-posted. ----------- Discussion subject changed to "Racistic and obscene postings by the COWARD fascist TURKISH troll "snip" by goguLOL LOL LOL Your "proof(s)" is no better than the toilet paper I am wiping you, uuups sorry, I wanted to say "my a**";-) Not only you are illiterate, not only you are DUMB, not only you can't understand what you read in English, you are also distorting postings and LYING like a genuine NAZI Turkish TROLL you are! snip ---------------- Well, apparently the style withstood the test of time. We find the same obsession about education and obscenity (of others, of course). One can wonder if throwing stones at one another is not the main hobby of some. Anyway, our hobby here in RCSD is stamp collecting. We cling to it and to our charter, and for this reason our level of bickering is low. -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
In , on 03/12/2012
at 11:48 PM, "Victor Manta" said: Anyway, our hobby here in RCSD is stamp collecting. We cling to it and to our charter, and for this reason our level of bickering is low. Yes, some old timers here form an odd bunch. My first venture into this group was greated with a volley of odd acronyms in subjects, as evidenced here. I come to find out it's how the core group communicates in some type of odd, self-serving way. And it still seems very odd to me. And, somehow, this is also supposed to control previous spam and bickering. Which either doesn't exist anymore, or is simply filtered out and the core group doesn't see it. You could just start a private message board of some type, eh? As one who does actually just like to collect coins and stamps and usually just reads for interesting posts, I find your rants as over-the-top as the ones that you seem to be trying to protect everyone from. Ironic. Heaven forbid someone else new ventures into this group. You'd think it was the rcsd charter newsgroup or something. Nick |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
Ο "Nick Knight" έγραψε στο μήνυμα
... In , on 03/12/2012 at 11:48 PM, "Victor Manta" said: Anyway, our hobby here in RCSD is stamp collecting. We cling to it and to our charter, and for this reason our level of bickering is low. Yes, some old timers here form an odd bunch. My first venture into this group was greated with a volley of odd acronyms in subjects, as evidenced here. I come to find out it's how the core group communicates in some type of odd, self-serving way. And it still seems very odd to me. And, somehow, this is also supposed to control previous spam and bickering. Which either doesn't exist anymore, or is simply filtered out and the core group doesn't see it. You could just start a private message board of some type, eh? As one who does actually just like to collect coins and stamps and usually just reads for interesting posts, I find your rants as over-the-top as the ones that you seem to be trying to protect everyone from. Ironic. Heaven forbid someone else new ventures into this group. You'd think it was the rcsd charter newsgroup or something. Thanks again for being fair! There is only one explanation for such a behavior and it's the one where in my previous posting I used "French";-) Anyway, let's let him alone trying to act as internet police and an old time commie trying to impose his undisputable..."authority";-) He obviously thinks of himself as the.owner of the group! People like him are only harming the hobby (any hobby) and make new collectors quit collecting. A "remarkable" achievement I'd say;-) Anyway, I believe that enough was said about this "gentleman" so please let's stop it here and let him alone continuing his flame wars... It's not worth. Obviously there better people in this ng and we should not let a bad apple eclipse them. -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html Nick |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
"gogu" snip obscenity from e-mail address wrote in message
... Γ "Nick Knight" ΓãñÑøΓ₯ óôï Γ¬ΓΓ*áìÑ ... In , on 03/12/2012 at 11:48 PM, "Victor Manta" said: Anyway, our hobby here in RCSD is stamp collecting. We cling to it and to our charter, and for this reason our level of bickering is low. Yes, some old timers here form an odd bunch. My first venture into this group was greated with a volley of odd acronyms in subjects, as evidenced here. Thanks again for being fair! There is only one explanation for such a behavior and it's the one where in my previous posting I used "French";-) In Russian I would say KΡΠΊΡΡΠΊΠ° Ρ Π²Π°Π»ΠΈΡ ΠΏΠ΅ΡΡΡ Π° Π·Π° ΡΠΎ, ΡΡΠΎ Ρ Π²Π°Π»ΠΈΡ ΠΎΠ½ ΠΊΡΠΊΡΡΠΊΡ (free translation: The cuckoo praises the rooster because he praises the cuckoo; after Krylov). This "happy ending" deserves some good old music, with lyrics related to the subject in discussion (for those unfamiliar with the text, it's addressed to a child): ------ Ooh you're a holiday, such a holiday It's something I thinks worthwhile If the puppet makes you smile If not then you're throwing stones Throwing stones, throwing stones Ooh it's a funny game Don't believe that it's all the same ---------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2YJf8P4Nt4 Back to stamps, in 2009 the Isle on Man celebrated Bee Gees' 50th anniversary by issuing a set of 8 stamps: http://tinyurl.com/77q99pv -- Victor Manta, PWO, AIJP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:59:52 -0500, "Nick Knight" "
sharpened a crayon and wrote: In , on 03/12/2012 at 11:48 PM, "Victor Manta" said: Anyway, our hobby here in RCSD is stamp collecting. We cling to it and to our charter, and for this reason our level of bickering is low. Yes, we all know how quick you are off the mark! Amazing how you can blow things far above what they really were! LOL! |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
? "Sir F.A. Rien" ?????? ??? ??????
... On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:59:52 -0500, "Nick Knight" " sharpened a crayon and wrote: In , on 03/12/2012 at 11:48 PM, "Victor Manta" said: Anyway, our hobby here in RCSD is stamp collecting. We cling to it and to our charter, and for this reason our level of bickering is low. Yes, we all know how quick you are off the mark! Amazing how you can blow things far above what they really were! PLEEEEASE, let's stop it now! It's obvious that this Manta "gentleman" is not worth all this attention! He is in flame wars and we are only feeding him! -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
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"Sir F.A. Rien" wrote in message
... On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:59:52 -0500, "Nick Knight" " sharpened a crayon and wrote: In , on 03/12/2012 at 11:48 PM, "Victor Manta" said: Anyway, our hobby here in RCSD is stamp collecting. We cling to it and to our charter, and for this reason our level of bickering is low. Yes, we all know how quick you are off the mark! Amazing how you can blow things far above what they really were! I wonder how can Sir F.A. Rien know how the things really are. Could he understand the _obscene_ e-mail address that started the polemics, one that is then multiplied by _unsuspecting_ posters? I doubt. Has he approved the style and contents of the united front of RCC partners, well experienced in "bickering" and exporting it to RCSD? Possibly. Or is he anyway fishing in troubled waters? Probably. The usual thanks for support from the main bickerer will follow soon. I suppose. Disclaimer: my postings doesn't imply anything negative about the coin collectors and their hobby. I met in time several very serious, well educated and polite coin collectors, who deeply impressed me by their knowledge and manners. -- Victor Manta |
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On 3/13/2012 8:29 AM, Victor Manta wrote:
"Sir F.A. Rien" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:59:52 -0500, "Nick Knight" " sharpened a crayon and wrote: In , on 03/12/2012 at 11:48 PM, "Victor Manta" said: Anyway, our hobby here in RCSD is stamp collecting. We cling to it and to our charter, and for this reason our level of bickering is low. Yes, we all know how quick you are off the mark! Amazing how you can blow things far above what they really were! I wonder how can Sir F.A. Rien know how the things really are. Could he understand the _obscene_ e-mail address that started the polemics, one that is then multiplied by _unsuspecting_ posters? I doubt. Has he approved the style and contents of the united front of RCC partners, well experienced in "bickering" and exporting it to RCSD? Possibly. Or is he anyway fishing in troubled waters? Probably. The usual thanks for support from the main bickerer will follow soon. I suppose. Disclaimer: my postings doesn't imply anything negative about the coin collectors and their hobby. I met in time several very serious, well educated and polite coin collectors, who deeply impressed me by their knowledge and manners. Moderator, please close this thread. Oh, there are no moderators here. Pity! Bill |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
"Billns" wrote in message
... Moderator, please close this thread. Oh, there are no moderators here. Pity! For those who want to be moderated there is, for example: http://www.stamporama.com/ There such a thread would be deleted before the 4th posting, because this one were sent to the moderator(s) and not to the ng. It would contain the translation of the obscene and racist e-mail address used by the first poster. -- Victor |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
In , on 03/13/2012
at 11:29 AM, "Victor Manta" said: Disclaimer: my postings doesn't imply anything negative about the coin collectors and their hobby No, it just proves you are a dick. I've seen it before from you, but tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, just because I know you're an old time "regular" here. Whatever very little that means. In rcc, I've permanently kill-filed more than a handful of idiots. Usually folks who go on and on about what's right, while they hypocritically violate their own crap. In short: you remind me so much of Phil. So, yes, apparently there are many similarities between the rcc old timers and the ones here. I'm happy to reuse my favorite solution from there, when "these types" show up. I'll give you more exclusiveness with your inner circle. plonk Nick "What if somebody continuously wanked on about some charter, but nobody listened?" |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
I wonder how can Sir F.A. Rien know how the things really are. Could he
understand the _obscene_ e-mail address that started the polemics, one that is then multiplied by _unsuspecting_ posters? I doubt. Sorry, but what I saw did not include that, but it seemed more of Victor's usual immediate ranting upon anything I migh say that he can twist. My presumption was that he transferred from my comment on tit-for-tat linking over to yet another message thread - something he does quite well. The usual thanks for support from the main bickerer will follow soon. I suppose. Fortunately I know how to ues killfiles so I don't see VM's bickering. Now back to helping those with queries on GB. Thankfully most serious collectors have my direct addy so it's not 'taking up space' needed by alyn and VM. |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
Wow, nice way to bring me up here. You must work wonders at garden parties with all your serious collector friends.
You typify the arrogance that is associated with many 'serious collectors'. I didn't contribute to this discussion because I don't read Romanian, and somebody else answered the original question. I suppose that if I had placed a email address of or gogutakesitupthe@ss we all would be OK because that wasn't the original intent or question. I love that those who feel it is their god given right to insult and malign love to complain just as much as those they claim are complaining. |
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On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:20:10 PM UTC-4, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
collectors have my direct addy so it's not 'taking up space' needed by alyn and VM. And I was mentioned why? Are you not now doing exactly what you accuse Victor of. |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
? "Alyn" ?????? ??? ??????
news:5498009.851.1331745666591.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbyk7... I didn't contribute to this discussion because I don't read Romanian, and somebody else answered the original question. I suppose that if I had placed a email address of or gogutakesitupthe@ss we all would be OK because that wasn't the original intent or question. That's right, this is *exactly* the point! It doesn't matter the address (which may be there for obvious reasons) in an obsolete language but the ***content*** of the posting! My question was answered gracefully by a poster and I'm thankful for that, that's how decent people behave! The rest is V.M's desire for flames and control over who should post here or not. We've seen such a behavior in other groups, we will see it again; it's typical of bitter people and of Usenet, nothing new. So I'm asking you all once again: please let's stop this thread here, let's don't play V.M's flames play, let him alone insulting like a 5th grade! It's not worth! -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
If you want an intelligent discussion with no flaming, and answers from
knowledgeable, helpful and polite philatelists please consider joining http://www.stampboards.com/ It has (as of today) 7828 members from all over the world - Gold medal winning exhibitors, FIP judges, and 'simple' collectors like myself etc. etc. No question is regarded as too basic or silly. All are treated with respect! It would appear that this group, along with rec.collecting.postal-history is dead in the water. RIP John |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
? "John Tollan" ?????? ??? ??????
ond.com... If you want an intelligent discussion with no flaming, and answers from knowledgeable, helpful and polite philatelists please consider joining http://www.stampboards.com/ It has (as of today) 7828 members from all over the world - Gold medal winning exhibitors, FIP judges, and 'simple' collectors like myself etc. etc. No question is regarded as too basic or silly. All are treated with respect! That's exactly what every decent (new) collector asks for. Simple, understandable, concise answers! No constipated people who regard themselves as the gurus of a (public) group or the Iranian Moral Police!!! People who instead of talking stamps prefer to discuss their frustrations... It would appear that this group, along with rec.collecting.postal-history is dead in the water. RIP Thank you for the link John, most useful, I'll certainly give it a try!! You are right, constipated people and flamers like V.M have destroyed such nice Usenet collecting groups... What can I say, it's a pity but...this is life. But it seems flamers haven't one;-))) -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html John |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:21:06 -0700 (PDT), Alyn
sharpened a crayon and wrote: I love that those who feel it is their god given right to insult and malign love to complain just as much as those they claim are complaining. Especially as you can not actually -=comprehend=- what was said! Do you have an automatic 'partial snipper' to slant everything against you? If you don't, ask VM, he has a masterful program to do just that. Sad that you've taken a valid comment and allowed your paranoia to turn it into what you believe is a personal attack. Might I ask you to review the fact that it was you resorting to calling names to 'prove' your status? G |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
Especially as you can not actually -=comprehend=- what was said! I am not trying to prove anything, and we might want to look at your issue with comprehension as well. It is you that took issue with me and the original post that you refered to in this post. |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
"gogu" wrote in message
... You are right, constipated people and flamers like V.M have destroyed such nice Usenet collecting groups... "gogu" started this thread with his infamous e-mail address: which means: Romanians suck XXXX of Greeks. For the meaning of XXXX see below. I noticed that "gogu" uses the newsgroup servers of a prestigious Greek _educational_ institution... The last hit of his RCC companion, "Nick Knight", was: "No, it just proves you are a dick". This "elegant" assertion shows similarities of thought between gogu & nick. After having implored us: "PLEEEEASE, let's stop it now!", "gogu" nevertheless continued to spit his ad hominem, even if I haven't reacted anymore. It became obvious that these men got enough rope from participants and that they start suffocating. The next stage is predictable. RIP. -- V.M. |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
Concerning http://www.stampboards.com/ let me add that you can also post
links to your philatelic blogs and websites, post pictures of your collection, and start threads dedicated to your collecting interest etc. It is one of the largest on-line philatelic communities in the world, if not the largest. Members happily share their knowledge, and there is expertise from both popular and esoteric collecting areas.I have had so many of my questions answered (I am a thematic collector). I have found it has vastly expanded both my appreciation of philately and my knowledge. It is a great site for all philatelists! Why not join? (and "No' I am simply a very appreciative member, nothing more!). |
[META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question.
? "John Tollan" ?????? ??? ??????
ond.com... Concerning http://www.stampboards.com/ let me add that you can also post links to your philatelic blogs and websites, post pictures of your collection, and start threads dedicated to your collecting interest etc. It is one of the largest on-line philatelic communities in the world, if not the largest. Members happily share their knowledge, and there is expertise from both popular and esoteric collecting areas.I have had so many of my questions answered (I am a thematic collector). I have found it has vastly expanded both my appreciation of philately and my knowledge. It is a great site for all philatelists! Why not join? (and "No' I am simply a very appreciative member, nothing more!). Sure, as I said I'll give it a try, especially if it's a troll-free place (since it's moderated) as you said;-) I'm a coin collector but I was collecting stamps when I was young. Recently I found my 40 years old collection and together I found a collection of my late father I was not aware of its existence! It seems there are a few rare stamps there (I could spot a couple of Hermes' heads) so I'd appreciate a help in evaluating them. Thanks again for the link! -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
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"gogu" wrote in message
... Sure, as I said I'll give it a try, especially if it's a troll-free place (since it's moderated) as you said;-) Trolls attack on RCSD ------------------------ "gogu", after having given StampBoards a try by using the same infamous return e-mail address as above, will have there the same bad (no trolls wanted !) surprise. Nick Knight, his alter ego, who fully supported "gogu", who used the same offensive language, and who posted through the _same_ news.ntua.gr server (usually reserved to those who are or were related to the National Technical University of Athens), will join the StampBoards too... -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
[META] Troll Victor Manta attacks with LIES. Was [META] On bickering and throwing stones.
? "Victor Manta" ?????? ??? ??????
... "gogu" wrote in message ... Sure, as I said I'll give it a try, especially if it's a troll-free place (since it's moderated) as you said;-) V.M's Troll attack on RCSD ------------------------ "gogu", after having given StampBoards a try by using the same infamous return e-mail address as above, will have there the same bad (no trolls wanted !) surprise. Nick Knight, his alter ego, who fully supported "gogu", who used the same offensive language, and who posted through the _same_ news.ntua.gr server (usually reserved to those who are or were related to the National Technical University of Athens), will join the StampBoards too... ??? Why are you shamelessly lying?! Mr. Knight is an old rcc poster and he can't use the ntua server since you can use this server *only* if your ISP is a...Greek ISP and you are part of the academic community (individuals of low ethics like V.M certainly never made part of such communities...)! In other words no one using a *foreign* ISP can post through that server! Check again Mr. Knight's headers and you will see that you are a LIAR! Not it was not expected from someone of your ilk though... You are a sad, old TROLL! PS A short search of Mr. Knght's headers will reveal to any *DECENT* and good faith poster that he is posting using an anonymous server (eternal-september.org) and *NOT* the server of NTUA in Greece! Also any poster with basic intelligence would spot the mediocre use of the english language by me and the perfect use of the same language by Mr. Knight who is obviously a native speaker! But for people with low ethics like V.M, LYING is something like second nature to them... Pathetic... ---- From: "Nick Knight" " Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss Subject: [META] On bickering and throwing stones. Was: Newbie question. Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:13:40 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: -------------- -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html |
[META] Troll Victor Manta attacks with LIES. Was [META] On bickering and throwing stones.
In , on 03/17/2012
at 10:33 PM, "gogu" said: Why are you shamelessly lying?! Mr. Knight is an old rcc poster and he can't use the ntua server Guy. I appreciate it, but there is no need to defend me. My email address is valid; it's one that represents my very own domain, one that I have registered for ... hmmmm ... 15 or 16 years now? My posting history is vast, including quite a few posts here. And my previous email addresses are easy to find, and posting under them is just as vast. And who cares? If I wanted to be anonymous, I'm allowed to be. I've just never found a need for it. But ding-dong would know that, since he's an alleged expert at digging up posting history. As if that's difficult! What kind of clever am I if I post through an anonymous (read: free and popular and adopted when my huge US ISP, cox.net, dropped newsgroups) yet use my real, direct email address and name?!!! Victor! You caught me!! duh Victor is just your typical Usenet wacko. He probably wears an aluminum foil hat and worries that little green men are going to find him and speak obscenities in some odd alien tongue. Oh, sure, we can't understand them, but they MUST BE saying something vulgar, eh? I've twitted the twit, as apparently many others here have. Odd, because I actually had a different "first impression". Whatever. He's wasted enough of my time. I haven't seen anthing from him for quite awhile. Until now, as you quoted him. Reid does that often "for me" in rcc, too. I guess it's your perogative, but I'd prefer it if you didn't quote the idiot. It's apparent that he's logically challenged, so why not let him wank on and ignore him? He's never going to get it. I set my kill entry to expire in a few months, but I see no reason not to make it a permanent entry. I'll go fix that now. Nick |
[META] Troll Victor Manta attacks with LIES. Was [META] On bickering and throwing stones.
In , on 03/17/2012
at 07:57 PM, "Nick Knight" " said: Guy. I appreciate it, but there is no need to defend me. My email address is valid; it's one that represents my very own domain, one that I have registered for ... hmmmm ... 15 or 16 years now? Which is actually a mistake on my part. Apparently I lost my spam-filtering override that I've been using for quite some time. After I typed that, I asked myself "why AM I using my normal, personal, real email on Usenet". Not sure when it changed, but it might explain my recent increase in spam. Fixing my settings to use my more age-old email address. My real name part has always remained constant. Nick |
[META] Troll Victor Manta attacks with LIES. Was [META] On bickering and throwing stones.
Ο "Nick Knight" έγραψε στο μήνυμα
... In , on 03/17/2012 at 10:33 PM, "gogu" said: Why are you shamelessly lying?! Mr. Knight is an old rcc poster and he can't use the ntua server Guy. I appreciate it, but there is no need to defend me. I just wanted to put things straight, that's all. I hate liars like V.M. My email address is valid; it's one that represents my very own domain, one that I have registered for ... hmmmm ... 15 or 16 years now? My posting history is vast, including quite a few posts here. And my previous email addresses are easy to find, and posting under them is just as vast. And who cares? If I wanted to be anonymous, I'm allowed to be. I've just never found a need for it. But ding-dong would know that, since he's an alleged expert at digging up posting history. As if that's difficult! Securitate in his old country had a vast archive of the "enemies of the state", so I suppose he's trained enough to know how to dig and find things about his perceived enemies;-) What kind of clever am I if I post through an anonymous (read: free and popular and adopted when my huge US ISP, cox.net, dropped newsgroups) yet use my real, direct email address and name?!!! Victor! You caught me!! duh Exactly;-) But scum like V.M will use lies in order to make their point (what that be anyway?...). After all this is the only thing they have: lies and misinformation. Victor is just your typical Usenet wacko. He probably wears an aluminum foil hat and worries that little green men are going to find him and speak obscenities in some odd alien tongue. Oh, sure, we can't understand them, but they MUST BE saying something vulgar, eh? Sure. Even when this "vulgar" is just an...e-mail spamtrap address in some obsolete language! LOL I've twitted the twit, as apparently many others here have. Odd, because I actually had a different "first impression". Whatever. He's wasted enough of my time. I haven't seen anthing from him for quite awhile. Until now, as you quoted him. Reid does that often "for me" in rcc, too. I guess it's your perogative, but I'd prefer it if you didn't quote the idiot. Rest assured this is the last time you see me quoting/answering a message of him;-) It's a total waste of time dealing with people of his ilk. It's apparent that he's logically challenged, Senile?... so why not let him wank on and ignore him? He's never going to get it. Following my own advise, I was ignoring him for days. But I could not stay mute when he started lying! As you have seen in my last posting I sent him back to oblivion. You are "old" enough on usenet to know that feeding the troll is the worst thing one can do;-) So...to the oblivion with him! Some inferiority complex suffering people want always to have the last word, so dear V.M...have it your way, say whatever you want, feel good, have the last word! After all, you are a sick man and doctor said we must be nice to you;-) Have a nice evening and....get well soon! -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html I set my kill entry to expire in a few months, but I see no reason not to make it a permanent entry. I'll go fix that now. Nick |
[META] Troll Victor Manta attacks with LIES. Was [META] On bickering and throwing stones.
Ο "Nick Knight" έγραψε στο μήνυμα
... In , on 03/17/2012 at 07:57 PM, "Nick Knight" " said: Guy. I appreciate it, but there is no need to defend me. My email address is valid; it's one that represents my very own domain, one that I have registered for ... hmmmm ... 15 or 16 years now? Which is actually a mistake on my part. Apparently I lost my spam-filtering override that I've been using for quite some time. After I typed that, I asked myself "why AM I using my normal, personal, real email on Usenet". Not sure when it changed, but it might explain my recent increase in spam. And that's why most of the posters (including me) are using a...spamtrap address! Since I started using it the volume of the spam I receive has dramatically decreased! Obviously some individuals can't get it or worst, they tolerate (if not even provoke...) spam! Oh well, one can't keep everybody happy, especially the "wackos of Usenet" as you called them;-) To the oblivion with them! -- E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi puttane! F.d.A Coins, travels and mo http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/golanule/ http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html Fixing my settings to use my more age-old email address. My real name part has always remained constant. Nick |
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