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LiRM August 1st 06 03:34 PM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
I recently purchased some nice bookshelves that have glass windows for
doors. I got them primarily so the doors will keep the dust out and
better protect my collectable's.

However, I have a dilemma. In the afternoon, the Sunlight makes it
way through the opposing windows and huge half circle decorative glass
piece about our front door.

Moving the bookshelves isn't an option or obviously I wouldn't be
writing this.

I'm trying to come up with a way to prevent what I know is going to
happen - discolor and fade the dust covers on my collection.

I'm thinking perhaps some kind of tinted laminate on the glass of the
doors, but have no idea how well this will work. And I'd hate to find
out through experimentation that it didn't.

If you've had this problem, how have you dealt with it?

Any suggestions, comments and products would be greatly appreciated.

Note: I'm covering all of my books with the book jacket covers from
Brodarts (which you all recommended - thank you!):

http://www.shopbrodart.com/shop/cb/p...atnum=10425525

or

http://tinyurl.com/kt7e7

As nice as they are, I don't think they are going to do the trick.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Regards,

LiRM

Francis A. Miniter August 1st 06 09:10 PM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
LiRM wrote:

I recently purchased some nice bookshelves that have glass windows for
doors. I got them primarily so the doors will keep the dust out and
better protect my collectable's.

However, I have a dilemma. In the afternoon, the Sunlight makes it
way through the opposing windows and huge half circle decorative glass
piece about our front door.

Moving the bookshelves isn't an option or obviously I wouldn't be
writing this.

I'm trying to come up with a way to prevent what I know is going to
happen - discolor and fade the dust covers on my collection.

I'm thinking perhaps some kind of tinted laminate on the glass of the
doors, but have no idea how well this will work. And I'd hate to find
out through experimentation that it didn't.

If you've had this problem, how have you dealt with it?

Any suggestions, comments and products would be greatly appreciated.

Note: I'm covering all of my books with the book jacket covers from
Brodarts (which you all recommended - thank you!):

http://www.shopbrodart.com/shop/cb/p...atnum=10425525

or

http://tinyurl.com/kt7e7

As nice as they are, I don't think they are going to do the trick.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Regards,

LiRM



Possibilities:

1. Move the bookcases out of the direct sunlight.

2. Line the glass with a material designed to filter out some range
of the wavelengths transmitted by the sun. Auto tints, for instance.
Of course, unless it is opaque, which defeats the purpose of the glass,
some sunlight (e.g., some wave lengths) will always get through and will
eventually fade the book/dust jacket spines. It is unavoidable.


Francis A. Miniter

Don Phillipson August 2nd 06 01:16 AM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
"LiRM" wrote in message
...
I recently purchased some nice bookshelves that have glass windows for
doors. I got them primarily so the doors will keep the dust out and
better protect my collectable's.

However, I have a dilemma. In the afternoon, the Sunlight makes it
way through the opposing windows and huge half circle decorative glass
piece about our front door. . . .
I'm trying to come up with a way to prevent what I know is going to
happen - discolor and fade the dust covers on my collection.

I'm thinking perhaps some kind of tinted laminate on the glass of the
doors, but have no idea how well this will work. And I'd hate to find
out through experimentation that it didn't.


The textile laboratory of the US National Bureau
of Standards ought to be able to tell you what
frequencies of daylight cause book jackets to fade
and its glass laboratory may be able to tell you
what varieties of glass will not transmit these
frequencies.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



kal53 August 2nd 06 01:25 AM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 

Don Phillipson wrote:
"LiRM" wrote in message
...
I recently purchased some nice bookshelves that have glass windows for
doors. I got them primarily so the doors will keep the dust out and
better protect my collectable's.

However, I have a dilemma. In the afternoon, the Sunlight makes it
way through the opposing windows and huge half circle decorative glass
piece about our front door. . . .
I'm trying to come up with a way to prevent what I know is going to
happen - discolor and fade the dust covers on my collection.

I'm thinking perhaps some kind of tinted laminate on the glass of the
doors, but have no idea how well this will work. And I'd hate to find
out through experimentation that it didn't.


The textile laboratory of the US National Bureau
of Standards ought to be able to tell you what
frequencies of daylight cause book jackets to fade


Here in Boulder there is a business called Spot Shots. They came to my
house and put a film on the most prominent window in my living room.
It filters like 97% of the offending rays and you can hardly tell the
window has treatment. Of course, if the sunlight is DIRECTLY landing
on the books through the day you might have to go to a more serious
treatment which does shade the window more but I believe does
effectively eliminate the damage caused by the sunlight.
and its glass laboratory may be able to tell you
what varieties of glass will not transmit these
frequencies.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



DfKNG August 2nd 06 02:20 AM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
Any suggestions, comments and products would be greatly appreciated.

There is a product called curtains. They make them for windows and they
should keep the sun out.




LiRM August 2nd 06 04:10 PM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:20:51 -0700, "DfKNG" wrote:

Any suggestions, comments and products would be greatly appreciated.

There is a product called curtains. They make them for windows and they
should keep the sun out.


I had to laugh in simply the way you expressed that, as I've done the
same :)

They would be, of course, an obvious solution. I should have stated
that the largest area that the sun makes it's way in is via the huge
half circle above our double wide french front doors. After talking
it over with my wife last night, she isn't too keen on either tinting
it or covering it. I more or less agree with her on it, as it does
bring in some nice afternoon sun.

So that changes my goal.

I guess I'm going to have to find a tint laminate that I can apply to
the bookshelf doors myself, unless I can find a place that does it
relatively inexpensively.

Moving the bookshelves isn't an option, for various reasons.

So if anyone has used a product like this with success, a name brand
and source would be helpful.

Thanking you all in advance.

Regards,

LiRM

Denton Taylor August 2nd 06 07:28 PM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
I do believe 3M was the first to market with this stuff. See
http://www.3m.com/us/arch_construct/...ige/index.html
for the latest.

3M has great tech support; I would email them and ask what the best
product would be for your application.

Denton



On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:10:52 -0400, LiRM wrote:

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:20:51 -0700, "DfKNG" wrote:

Any suggestions, comments and products would be greatly appreciated.

There is a product called curtains. They make them for windows and they
should keep the sun out.


I had to laugh in simply the way you expressed that, as I've done the
same :)

They would be, of course, an obvious solution. I should have stated
that the largest area that the sun makes it's way in is via the huge
half circle above our double wide french front doors. After talking
it over with my wife last night, she isn't too keen on either tinting
it or covering it. I more or less agree with her on it, as it does
bring in some nice afternoon sun.

So that changes my goal.

I guess I'm going to have to find a tint laminate that I can apply to
the bookshelf doors myself, unless I can find a place that does it
relatively inexpensively.

Moving the bookshelves isn't an option, for various reasons.

So if anyone has used a product like this with success, a name brand
and source would be helpful.

Thanking you all in advance.

Regards,

LiRM



Jack Campin - bogus address August 2nd 06 10:49 PM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
I guess I'm going to have to find a tint laminate that I can apply to
the bookshelf doors myself, unless I can find a place that does it
relatively inexpensively.


An old solution for shop windows was a roller blind of clear yellow
plastic - whatever the plastic was, it was something that has been
available for a very long time, as I remember this from the 1950s.
You don't see it very often these days.

============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ==============
Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557

LiRM August 3rd 06 11:40 AM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:28:16 -0400, Denton Taylor
wrote:

I do believe 3M was the first to market with this stuff. See
http://www.3m.com/us/arch_construct/...ige/index.html
for the latest.

3M has great tech support; I would email them and ask what the best
product would be for your application.

Denton


Bingo. This looks exactly like what I need. From the site, it states
that it will reflect over 99 percent of the UV rays, which are
responsible for fading.

Thank you for this - it's much appreciated, Denton. :)

Regards,

LiRM





On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:10:52 -0400, LiRM wrote:

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:20:51 -0700, "DfKNG" wrote:

Any suggestions, comments and products would be greatly appreciated.

There is a product called curtains. They make them for windows and they
should keep the sun out.


I had to laugh in simply the way you expressed that, as I've done the
same :)

They would be, of course, an obvious solution. I should have stated
that the largest area that the sun makes it's way in is via the huge
half circle above our double wide french front doors. After talking
it over with my wife last night, she isn't too keen on either tinting
it or covering it. I more or less agree with her on it, as it does
bring in some nice afternoon sun.

So that changes my goal.

I guess I'm going to have to find a tint laminate that I can apply to
the bookshelf doors myself, unless I can find a place that does it
relatively inexpensively.

Moving the bookshelves isn't an option, for various reasons.

So if anyone has used a product like this with success, a name brand
and source would be helpful.

Thanking you all in advance.

Regards,

LiRM


BobFinnan.com August 3rd 06 09:56 PM

Sunlight and what to do about it
 
LiRM wrote:
If you've had this problem, how have you dealt with it?

Any suggestions, comments and products would be greatly appreciated.


I constructed a huge disk which blocks out the sun over my house (and
the rest of the neighborhood).
Works great but is everyone is getting rickets.



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