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GOP favorability: Lowest ever
Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican
Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 26, 4:31*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. *Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: *NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 26, 4:31*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. *Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: *NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. The neocon is on the verge of inevitable extinction. Next year, you'll only be able to find them in Paraguay. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
"MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Mike |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 26, 7:13*pm, "Mike Laight" wrote:
"MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. *In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Mike there was over 100 anti-Obama websites started in the past day, by Democrats the party is split |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 26, 6:36*pm, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
On Jun 26, 7:13*pm, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message .... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. *In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Mike there was over 100 anti-Obama websites started in the past day, by Democrats the party is split- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Split open like dinosaur pussy !! ROTFLMFAO !!!! |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
"trippin-2-8-track" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 7:13 pm, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Mike there was over 100 anti-Obama websites started in the past day, by Democrats the party is split Over 100 started yesterday and ALL of them by Democrats? Ignoring, for a moment how you found out that they were Democrats why don't you list their URL's. Mike |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 26, 6:15*pm, Jerry Kraus wrote:
... On Jun 26, 4:31*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. *Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: *NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. The neocon is on the verge of inevitable extinction. *Next year, you'll only be able to find them in Paraguay. Are you old enuf to remember 1994? Same nonsense was said then. Nonsense is timeless... it's the players who change. -C- |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:36:15 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track
wrote: there was snip There WERE, dip****. over 100 anti-Obama websites started in the past day, by Democrats snip Charlie Nudo, "net detective," invents his own reality to suit his aims once more. All paranoid schizophrenics do that. Let's see the proof, moron. See more about this legendary Google Groups "luser" at: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
wrote: On Jun 26, 4:31*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. *Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: *NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. The neocon is on the verge of inevitable extinction. Next year, you'll only be able to find them in Paraguay. ....on Junior's "ranch," hiding from prosecution in a country with no extradition treaty with the US. Hillary's already made that point clear, that Bush's and Cheney's passports need to be lifted before they leave the White House and Naval Observatory grounds. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
"Mike Laight" wrote in
: "trippin-2-8-track" wrote in message . .. On Jun 26, 7:13 pm, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Mike there was over 100 anti-Obama websites started in the past day, by Democrats the party is split Over 100 started yesterday and ALL of them by Democrats? Ignoring, for a moment how you found out that they were Democrats why don't you list their URL's. Mike It's just their fear talking. It's all bull****. There aren't any. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
MuttonJeff wrote: On Jun 26, 4:31�pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. �Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: �NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Do you think they should have a higher number? Along with the Republicans. Would you even want it to be higher, for both Republicans and Democrats? Why do you think it's sssoooooo ****ing low in the first place? Think bitch think!! |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
Mike Laight wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Mike Well Republicans don't do **** in the first place, Democrats do their job for them, but the presidency and the mindless support of the poor Bush leadership is the real problem. To top it off Republicans always try to drag the Democrats and the country into the **** with them. For some ****ing reason |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight"
wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
"nobody" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? The Dem plan for energy: hook all their Dem mouths up to a wind generator, they are nothing but windbags anyway--what a boon to recycling! They talk the talk but sure as hell don't walk the walk! Kitty |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
"nobody" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? I know it is not as dynamic as Senator McCain's gas tax holiday and I know that Senator Obama has kept his opinions the same, instead of Senator McCain's earlier position about what a bad idea and how long it will take to see any results and the small impact increased domestic drilling would have on our economy as he said repeatedly in May and yet last week he reversed himself on ALL of his prior positions concerning domestic drilling (geez, Senator McCain did manage to keep to one policy for a whole month!) But if you are really interested in Senator Obama's plan then look he http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/. If you think energy prices are going back down to ~ $1.40 per gallon, as it was when president Bush took office, then you have not been paying attention. We have borrowed around a trillion dollars from China (and a little more than that from Japan, seriously devaluing the U S dollar) and the Chinese are using that debt we owe them to compete with us for buying oil. It is the international way to float a fiat currency. Mike |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 26, 9:46*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus The neocon is on the verge of inevitable extinction. *Next year, you'll only be able to find them inParaguay. ...on Junior's "ranch," hiding from prosecution in a country with no extradition treaty with the US. *Hillary's already made that point clear, that Bush's and Cheney's passports need to be lifted before they leave the White House and Naval Observatory grounds. How stupid does a person have to be, or how dishonest, to keep repeating for years that Paraguay has no extradition treaty with the US? Read it yourself, it's about 3/4s of the way down the page: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/c...s/106cat2.html And by the way, a country like this wouldn't hide anyone from anybody. They'd take your money then sell you to the highest bidder, then probably keep the money and sell you to the second highest bidder. Even the Nazis skedaddled as soon as anyone found out they were here. Michael Burns Asunción, Paraguay |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 27, 5:41*am, nobody wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message .... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. *In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Raise taxes?? |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:25:09 -0700, "Mike Laight"
wrote: "nobody" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? I know it is not as dynamic as Senator McCain's gas tax holiday and I know that Senator Obama has kept his opinions the same, instead of Senator McCain's earlier position about what a bad idea and how long it will take to see any results and the small impact increased domestic drilling would have on our economy as he said repeatedly in May and yet last week he reversed himself on ALL of his prior positions concerning domestic drilling (geez, Senator McCain did manage to keep to one policy for a whole month!) But if you are really interested in Senator Obama's plan then look he http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/. There is little to nothing there that will lower energy costs. In fact, things like "cap and trade" will likely increase the costs. The whole link you cited has little in the way of specifics (other than they plan to spend a lot of money). I'll ask again: where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? Talking won't improve things. One must actually put something specific forth. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:33:59 -0700 (PDT), MuttonJeff
wrote: On Jun 27, 5:41*am, nobody wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. *In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Raise taxes?? Pretty much. What's the Dems plan about high gas prices? Why, they want to impose a "windfall profit tax" (whatever that's supposed to mean) on the evil oil companies. If imposed, who do these idiots think will actually pay the tax? |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 27, 8:09*pm, nobody wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:33:59 -0700 (PDT), MuttonJeff wrote: On Jun 27, 5:41*am, nobody wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. *In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Raise taxes?? Pretty much. *What's the Dems plan about high gas prices? *Why, they want to impose a "windfall profit tax" (whatever that's supposed to mean) on the evil oil companies. *If imposed, who do these idiots think will actually pay the tax?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - UUUUHHH, the "rich"?? |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
"nobody" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:25:09 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "nobody" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? I know it is not as dynamic as Senator McCain's gas tax holiday and I know that Senator Obama has kept his opinions the same, instead of Senator McCain's earlier position about what a bad idea and how long it will take to see any results and the small impact increased domestic drilling would have on our economy as he said repeatedly in May and yet last week he reversed himself on ALL of his prior positions concerning domestic drilling (geez, Senator McCain did manage to keep to one policy for a whole month!) But if you are really interested in Senator Obama's plan then look he http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/. There is little to nothing there that will lower energy costs. In fact, things like "cap and trade" will likely increase the costs. The whole link you cited has little in the way of specifics (other than they plan to spend a lot of money). I'll ask again: where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? Talking won't improve things. One must actually put something specific forth. Heck, the republicant plan was to jawbone OPEC and the Saudis. How well did that work? Senator Obama's plan was to stop throwing good money after bad. Giving oil companies tax breaks and subsidies while they were enjoying record profits did not do what republicants told us it would do either. Invading Iraq also opened up a lot of cheap oil to us, did it not? Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. I understand that you do not like his answers as they do not provide the quick fix hat no one has to offer. I also suspect that you do not take into account that our government's borrowing policies of the last 7 years, international inflation, means that the price of that gallon of gas that cost ~$1.40 when president Bush took office, should cost nearly $3.00 in today's devalued dollars. You may be a little young to remember or understand what it is like but you do not want to see deflation cause a gallon of gas return to $1.40. Mike |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:52:26 -0700, "Mike Laight"
wrote: "nobody" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:25:09 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "nobody" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? I know it is not as dynamic as Senator McCain's gas tax holiday and I know that Senator Obama has kept his opinions the same, instead of Senator McCain's earlier position about what a bad idea and how long it will take to see any results and the small impact increased domestic drilling would have on our economy as he said repeatedly in May and yet last week he reversed himself on ALL of his prior positions concerning domestic drilling (geez, Senator McCain did manage to keep to one policy for a whole month!) But if you are really interested in Senator Obama's plan then look he http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/. There is little to nothing there that will lower energy costs. In fact, things like "cap and trade" will likely increase the costs. The whole link you cited has little in the way of specifics (other than they plan to spend a lot of money). I'll ask again: where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? Talking won't improve things. One must actually put something specific forth. Heck, the republicant plan was to jawbone OPEC and the Saudis. How well did that work? Apparently it did work although it's far too early to measure any results. http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/22/news...n=money_latest Senator Obama's plan was to stop throwing good money after bad. Giving oil companies tax breaks and subsidies while they were enjoying record profits did not do what republicants told us it would do either. What did Republicans "tell" us that tax breaks and subsides would do? While you're at it, tell us what percent of a gallon of gas goes to oil company profits. How does this compare to other products. Invading Iraq also opened up a lot of cheap oil to us, did it not? Gotta love libs. Did we "invade" Iraq for "cheap oil prices" or "higher prices"? Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. So, in other words, he has no plans whatsoever to help people who are losing ground financially *right now* due to the high cost of energy. All he seems to talk about are things that will happen some day yet we can't drill in Anwar because it would supposedly take ten yers to get the oil. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
"nobody" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:52:26 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: (Snip) Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. So, in other words, he has no plans whatsoever to help people who are losing ground financially *right now* due to the high cost of energy. All he seems to talk about are things that will happen some day yet we can't drill in Anwar because it would supposedly take ten yers to get the oil. president Bush this last week said that there is no way to lower prices in gthe short term. Senator McCain said the same in May, 2008. What is Senator McCainsJune, 2008 plan for what he said couldnot happen one month ago? Mike |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 26, 3:15 pm, Jerry Kraus wrote:
On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. The neocon is on the verge of inevitable extinction. Next year, you'll only be able to find them in Paraguay. Unfortunately, the neocons have amongst their members most of the wealthiest people in America. These wealthy people have over the years learned how to manipulate the masses into voting against their own best interest. Remember how union members voted for Reagan? Remember how many of the poor vote for Republicans? The wealthy will gain control of the masses one way or another. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
This is nobody's brain on drugs:
Mike Laight wrote: nobody wrote There is little to nothing there that will lower energy costs. In fact, things like "cap and trade" will likely increase the costs. The whole link you cited has little in the way of specifics (other than they plan to spend a lot of money). I'll ask again: where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? Talking won't improve things. One must actually put something specific forth. Heck, the republicant plan was to jawbone OPEC and the Saudis. How well did that work? Apparently it did work although it's far too early to measure any results. http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/22/news...n=money_latest Compare the price of oil and gasoline today to it's price January 20, 2001. Senator Obama's plan was to stop throwing good money after bad. Giving oil companies tax breaks and subsidies while they were enjoying record profits did not do what republicants told us it would do either. What did Republicans "tell" us that tax breaks and subsides would do? Make oil cheaper by making exploration and development less expensive for them. While you're at it, tell us what percent of a gallon of gas goes to oil company profits. How does this compare to other products. I don't have any problems with their profits or margins, but I do have a problem with tax breaks and subsidies for a healthy, vibrant and thriving industry. Invading Iraq also opened up a lot of cheap oil to us, did it not? Gotta love libs. Did we "invade" Iraq for "cheap oil prices" or "higher prices"? Iraq's oil production should be returning to 2002 levels this year. That should help negate the shortfall in global production caused by the invasion. Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. So, in other words, he has no plans whatsoever to help people who are losing ground financially *right now* due to the high cost of energy. All he seems to talk about are things that will happen some day yet we can't drill in Anwar because it would supposedly take ten yers to get the oil. The Republicans had their chance to do something about our energy dependence when Reagan was President. Too bad he de funded Carter's alternate energy support. Swill -- Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
This is Eat the rich's brain on drugs:
Unfortunately, the neocons have amongst their members most of the wealthiest people in America. These wealthy people have over the years learned how to manipulate the masses into voting against their own best interest. Remember how union members voted for Reagan? Remember how many of the poor vote for Republicans? The wealthy will gain control of the masses one way or another. Obama's money doesn't come from the rich and powerful. Swill -- Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 27, 11:52*pm, "Mike Laight" wrote:
"nobody" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:25:09 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "nobody" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:13:48 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "MuttonJeff" wrote in message .... On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats.. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. Still higher than the 12% the liberal congress has racked up. It's only gonna get worse. Yup, keep on ignoring that the favorability polling for republicants in congress is lower than the favorability of Democrats. *In other words, people recognize that republicants are the problem with Congress. Where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? I know it is not as dynamic as Senator McCain's gas tax holiday and I know that Senator Obama has kept his opinions the same, instead of Senator McCain's earlier position about what a bad idea and how long it will take to see any results and the small impact increased domestic drilling would have on our economy as he said repeatedly in May and yet last week he reversed himself on ALL of his prior positions concerning domestic drilling (geez, Senator McCain did manage to keep to one policy for a whole month!) *But if you are really interested in Senator Obama's plan then look he http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/. There is little to nothing there that will lower energy costs. *In fact, things like "cap and trade" will likely increase the costs. *The whole link you cited has little in the way of specifics (other than they plan to spend a lot of money). *I'll ask again: where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? *Talking won't improve things. One must actually put something specific forth. Heck, the republicant plan was to jawbone OPEC and the Saudis. *How well did that work? *Senator Obama's plan was to stop throwing good money after bad. Giving oil companies tax breaks and subsidies while they were enjoying record profits did not do what republicants told us it would do either. Invading Iraq also opened up a lot of cheap oil to us, did it not? Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. *I understand that you do not like his answers as they do not provide the quick fix hat no one has to offer. I also suspect that you do not take into account that our government's borrowing policies of the last 7 years, international inflation, means that the price of that gallon of gas that cost ~$1.40 when president Bush took office, should cost nearly $3.00 in today's devalued dollars. *You may be a little young to remember or understand what it is like but you do not want to see deflation cause a gallon of gas return to $1.40. Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You stupid ****ing kool-aid drinking idiot. Your Messiah will squander every dime he collects in taxes. Not a dime will go towards this "debt" you libs have been crying about. He'll send trillions to Mother Africa while we pay $8 for a gallon of gas. You people are scary. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 28, 8:17*pm, "Mike Laight" wrote:
"nobody" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:52:26 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: (Snip) Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. So, in other words, he has no plans whatsoever to help people who are losing ground financially *right now* due to the high cost of energy. All he seems to talk about are things that will happen some day yet we can't drill in Anwar because it would supposedly take ten yers to get the oil. president Bush this last week said that there is no way to lower prices in gthe short term. *Senator McCain said the same in May, 2008. *What is Senator McCainsJune, 2008 plan for what he said couldnot happen one month ago? Mike If Bush announced that the U.S was starting a "Manhattan Project" to drill for domestic oil, build refineries, build nuclear power plants and develop clean coal technology the price of oil would drop like a rock overnight. The world knows we have done it and can do anything if the american people put their minds to it. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 28, 9:24*pm, Eat the rich wrote:
On Jun 26, 3:15 pm, Jerry Kraus wrote: On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. *Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: *NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. The neocon is on the verge of inevitable extinction. *Next year, you'll only be able to find them in Paraguay. Unfortunately, the neocons have amongst their members most of the wealthiest people in America. *These wealthy people have over the years learned how to manipulate the masses into voting against their own best interest. *Remember how union members voted for Reagan? Remember how many of the poor vote for Republicans? *The wealthy will gain control of the masses one way or another. Remember how the kool-aid drinkers voted for Gore, Kerry and all the other wealthy hypocrites? |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Jun 29, 12:51*am, Governor Swill wrote:
This is Eat the rich's brain on drugs: Unfortunately, the neocons have amongst their members most of the wealthiest people in America. *These wealthy people have over the years learned how to manipulate the masses into voting against their own best interest. *Remember how union members voted for Reagan? Remember how many of the poor vote for Republicans? *The wealthy will gain control of the masses one way or another. Obama's money doesn't come from the rich and powerful. Swill -- Gobama! *Gobama! *Gobama! *Gobama! So you're saying Hussein does'nt receive money from MOVEON.org and George Soros or the Arabs? |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
This is MuttonJeff's brain on drugs:
Governor Swill wrote: This is Eat the rich's brain on drugs: Unfortunately, the neocons have amongst their members most of the wealthiest people in America. *These wealthy people have over the years learned how to manipulate the masses into voting against their own best interest. *Remember how union members voted for Reagan? Remember how many of the poor vote for Republicans? *The wealthy will gain control of the masses one way or another. Obama's money doesn't come from the rich and powerful. So you're saying Hussein does'nt receive money from MOVEON.org and George Soros or the Arabs? I'm saying that he rejects money from special interests, lobbyists and corporations. Not that he doesn't have a few larger donors, but the great majority of his money comes in small, regular donations from regular folks. I'm sure that if you try real hard you can come up with all sorts of stories about his contributors, who they are and how much they gave him but it won't change reality. In fact, I'm sure you will. Swill -- Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
This is MuttonJeff's brain on drugs:
Eat the rich wrote: Unfortunately, the neocons have amongst their members most of the wealthiest people in America. *These wealthy people have over the years learned how to manipulate the masses into voting against their own best interest. *Remember how union members voted for Reagan? Remember how many of the poor vote for Republicans? *The wealthy will gain control of the masses one way or another. Remember how the kool-aid drinkers voted for Gore, Kerry and all the other wealthy hypocrites? No, but I do remember all the kool aid drinkers who voted for "wealthy hypocrite" Bush and the money grubbing GOP. Please note the current make up of Congress and the further losses sustained there by the party in special elections since 2006. Note how many Republicans, including the party's presumptive nominee, are struggling to distance themselves from George Bush. Even more telling, Republicans are linking themselves to Obama in their re-election bids or refusing to endorse the Republican nominee. It's starting to look like your kool aid pitcher has run dry and your party is in eclipse. Swill -- Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:17:25 -0700, "Mike Laight"
wrote: "nobody" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:52:26 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: (Snip) Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. So, in other words, he has no plans whatsoever to help people who are losing ground financially *right now* due to the high cost of energy. All he seems to talk about are things that will happen some day yet we can't drill in Anwar because it would supposedly take ten yers to get the oil. president Bush this last week said that there is no way to lower prices in gthe short term. Senator McCain said the same in May, 2008. What is Senator McCainsJune, 2008 plan for what he said couldnot happen one month ago? Both Bush and McCain have been pushing for increased domestic oil production. That is the place to start. You can then move forth into developing alternatives. To do as the Dems (and Obama) have been doing --- talk, talk, talk with no specific proposals guarantees no improvement in cost or real alternatives. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:24:16 -0700 (PDT), Eat the rich
wrote: On Jun 26, 3:15 pm, Jerry Kraus wrote: On Jun 26, 4:31 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Just 28% of Americans now have a "favorable" view of the Republican Party, while 43% view the Democratic Party favorably. Also telling is the "unfavorable" rating...fully 47% of Americans now view the GOP in an unfavorable view, while only 32% say the same about the Democrats. Source: NBC/Wall Street Journal. America's long national nightmare is over. The neocon is on the verge of inevitable extinction. Next year, you'll only be able to find them in Paraguay. Unfortunately, the neocons have amongst their members most of the wealthiest people in America. Ted Kennedy, George Soros and countless other Dems are "neocons"? Do tell... |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:50:26 -0400, Governor Swill
wrote: This is nobody's brain on drugs: This from the guy who's newsreader has a bit of a problem quoting correctly... Mike Laight wrote: nobody wrote There is little to nothing there that will lower energy costs. In fact, things like "cap and trade" will likely increase the costs. The whole link you cited has little in the way of specifics (other than they plan to spend a lot of money). I'll ask again: where's the Dem plan to solve high energy prices again? Talking won't improve things. One must actually put something specific forth. Heck, the republicant plan was to jawbone OPEC and the Saudis. How well did that work? Apparently it did work although it's far too early to measure any results. http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/22/news...n=money_latest Compare the price of oil and gasoline today to it's price January 20, 2001. Try to follow the conversation. The poster I responded to said the Republican plan was to "jawbone" the Saudis. I pointed out that it did indeed result in increased output although it is far too soon to judge the results. Senator Obama's plan was to stop throwing good money after bad. Giving oil companies tax breaks and subsidies while they were enjoying record profits did not do what republicants told us it would do either. What did Republicans "tell" us that tax breaks and subsides would do? Make oil cheaper by making exploration and development less expensive for them. And if the Dems don't allow that exploration or development? I also note that you didn't bother to back up your statement with a cite. While you're at it, tell us what percent of a gallon of gas goes to oil company profits. How does this compare to other products. I don't have any problems with their profits or margins, but I do have a problem with tax breaks and subsidies for a healthy, vibrant and thriving industry. I'm not arguing about for breaks for healthy industries. In fact, I agree with you. They should be eliminated just as the farm subsides the Dems just pushed through. I bring up the point to address the loons who keep claiming the oil companies are gouging the public with excessive profit. Invading Iraq also opened up a lot of cheap oil to us, did it not? Gotta love libs. Did we "invade" Iraq for "cheap oil prices" or "higher prices"? Iraq's oil production should be returning to 2002 levels this year. That should help negate the shortfall in global production caused by the invasion. Perhaps, but that wasn't the point of what I said. Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. So, in other words, he has no plans whatsoever to help people who are losing ground financially *right now* due to the high cost of energy. All he seems to talk about are things that will happen some day yet we can't drill in Anwar because it would supposedly take ten yers to get the oil. The Republicans had their chance to do something about our energy dependence when Reagan was President. Too bad he de funded Carter's alternate energy support. And the Dems have offered *zero* in the way of meaningful alternatives. You forgot to cite how Reagan defunded Carter's alternative energy support. In fact, if that was so important, did Clinton restore the funding? |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
Screw off, you can't even get a few illegals out from in front of a hardware
store. "MuttonJeff" wrote in message ... On Jun 28, 8:17 pm, "Mike Laight" wrote: "nobody" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:52:26 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: (Snip) Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. So, in other words, he has no plans whatsoever to help people who are losing ground financially *right now* due to the high cost of energy. All he seems to talk about are things that will happen some day yet we can't drill in Anwar because it would supposedly take ten yers to get the oil. president Bush this last week said that there is no way to lower prices in gthe short term. Senator McCain said the same in May, 2008. What is Senator McCainsJune, 2008 plan for what he said couldnot happen one month ago? Mike If Bush announced that the U.S was starting a "Manhattan Project" to drill for domestic oil, build refineries, build nuclear power plants and develop clean coal technology the price of oil would drop like a rock overnight. The world knows we have done it and can do anything if the american people put their minds to it. |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
This is nobody's brain on drugs:
Both Bush and McCain have been pushing for increased domestic oil production. And that's all they've done which entirely misses the point. That is the place to start. You can then move forth into developing alternatives. To do as the Dems (and Obama) have been doing --- talk, talk, talk with no specific proposals guarantees no improvement in cost or real alternatives. You must not have read Obama's page. He has many proposals there. Swill -- Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
This is nobody's brain on drugs:
While you're at it, tell us what percent of a gallon of gas goes to oil company profits. How does this compare to other products. I don't have any problems with their profits or margins, but I do have a problem with tax breaks and subsidies for a healthy, vibrant and thriving industry. I'm not arguing about for breaks for healthy industries. In fact, I agree with you. They should be eliminated just as the farm subsides the Dems just pushed through. I bring up the point to address the loons who keep claiming the oil companies are gouging the public with excessive profit. I'm not one of them. Swill -- Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! Gobama! |
GOP favorability: Lowest ever
"nobody" wrote in message ... On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:17:25 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: "nobody" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:52:26 -0700, "Mike Laight" wrote: (Snip) Senator Obama has repeatedly called for spending those tax breaks and subsidies on the next generations of energy sources and not on dumping more money down the oil wells. So, in other words, he has no plans whatsoever to help people who are losing ground financially *right now* due to the high cost of energy. All he seems to talk about are things that will happen some day yet we can't drill in Anwar because it would supposedly take ten yers to get the oil. president Bush this last week said that there is no way to lower prices in gthe short term. Senator McCain said the same in May, 2008. What is Senator McCainsJune, 2008 plan for what he said couldnot happen one month ago? Both Bush and McCain have been pushing for increased domestic oil production. Yes, this week Senator McCain flip-flopped on domestic drilling, while president Bush is now pushing it harder than he had been. Does it seem reasonable to you that Senator McCain has voted against every type of renewable energy and that he and President Bush agree that what we should do right now to get us off our oil addiction is to drill for more oil? That is the place to start. You can then move forth into developing alternatives. To do as the Dems (and Obama) have been doing --- talk, talk, talk with no specific proposals guarantees no improvement in cost or real alternatives. You may not like or agree with Senator Obama's proposals but I am not an expert and I have seen several reports from reputable and somewhat objective "experts" that are in complete agreement with Senator Obama's energy proposals and other equally reputable and somewhat objective "experts" that are in complete agreement with the Bush/McCain proposals. There are two things that seem axiomatic to me: 1 - At some point in time we will not have an option of using oil as an energy source. 2 - At some point in time we have to decide that it is in the best interest of this country to stop spending public funds and public resources to scrape along further using oil as an energy source. The disagreement is about when and what to do now. The Japanese seem to be putting a lot more resources into solving this problem than we are. The Chinese, Indians, and South and Central America's desire for oil is growing at a faster pace than is ours. In fact,our use has pretty much plateaued at a level that is below our peak usage. (This could be out of date data and I am too lazy to look up more recent data but at the very least this was true a couple years ago.) My point is that I want the US to spend a huge amount of money to at least catch up with the Japanese and then spend another huge amount to move ahead of them. I want to let oil companies stop getting subsidies and tax breaks for at least the next ten years. I want the US to spend huge amounts of money developing safe nuclear power systems and waste handling and perhaps settle our deficit by selling, building, and installing renewable power systems and safe nuclear power systems to every country in the world. This is the future, eventually, and Senator Obama talks about a very similar vision. When I listen to Senator McCain I think about something written by Robert Heinlein. He wrote about what it must have been like in the buggy whip business as cars started to become common and affordable. Heinlein wrote that it is likely that only the best buggy whip manufacturers were likely to survive as the market for buggy whips was shrinking. The last buggy whip companies probably took a great deal of pride in making the best buggy whips they could make. It used to be taught that one of the worst places for a business to be is in gaining market share in a shrinking market. I believe that Senator McCain is treating the energy problem in the same way as the buggy whip manufacturers. He is looking for the very best way he can find to address the problem of oil prices while not addressing that oil is going to be replaced as a source of energy. I only hope that we have the time to solve this problem before we have to start burning down the house for warmth. Mike |
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