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Let the caucus circus begin!
Here's my take at Iowa, although I'm not betting the farm on it...the
race is still wide open even as the caucuses open: Democratic winner: Clinton (or possibly Edwards) Republican winner: Huckabee Out of contention by New Hampshi Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Thompson, Paul, Hunter. Rationale: Clinton's been picking up the undecideds, and "soft" support for Obama is eroding. Edwards, though, has the wind of momentum behind him going into caucus day. Turnout is crucial for Obama, and he might not get all he needs of first timers to put him over, while ****ed off Maytag employees and union members for Edwards have been working very hard, as have Hillary's people, to boost their core turnout bases. BIG negative for Obama: "Oprahfest," which turns out to have turned OFF as many potential supporters as it was supposed to have turned ON. Oprah's more polarizing than Hillary could ever be, and fawning housefraus who love her are more than offset by others who cannot STAND her. The BIG battle in New Hampshire is a weird one fostered by New Hampshire's wacky "open primary for independents only" system. Now, we have Obama fighting for votes directly against McCain, of all people! This could skew New Hampshire results to the point of irrelevance as far as the party nominations go, but would give McCain some badly needed fuel to burn into South Carolina, and could give Obama a lift after a probable loss to Clinton (or Edwards) in Iowa. Right now, Romney's the GOP favorite in New Hampshire, with Clinton back to leading Obama...but that's only among party regulars. Once you throw the independents into the fray, things get murky, although it does make McCain a contender again, if a weak one. Huckabee won't even come close in New Hampshire, and he's already in retrograde in Iowa, but may win there anyway, due to the robotic churcher vote. Those Episcopalians and Congregationalists in New England will have nothing of some southern preacher in THEIR neck o' the woods...ayuh! An Edwards win in Iowa could be parlayed into big news for him if he takes South Carolina, where he's got the home state advantage. The GOP in SC is nothing but chaos, providing yet another opening for McCain. Romney and Giuliani are both sinking there, where they're duking it out with Huckabee over the churchers. A McCain win in SC will do the greatest damage to Romney, who was hoping to take the state in a cake walk after a big, paid-for win in New Hampshire. The sad fact of our flawed system is that we'll lose two excellent candidates, Joe Biden (D-DE) and Chris Dodd (D-CT). Both are probably the best qualified in foreign and defense policy to hold office, but somehow never got what Nixon once called "the big bow" from the party or the public. You have to throw Richardson in there for qualifications, too, but he's just plain unelectable. The media's probably as much to blame for this as is the DNC, but at least we'll still have both of them in the Senate after the dust stops blowing. My gut tells me Richardson will wind up in a Cabinet post (his forte) shortly after the Democratic win in November. Over on the other side, the GOP doesn't lose much, if anything. Paul...tin foil hats, freemason demons and black choppers. Hunter...California Republican Assembly-favored whack job and defense contractor shill who probably won't even win reelection in his own district. Tancredo at least had the sense to get out before getting steamrollered. As far as the general goes, voters favor "any Democrat" over "any Republican" by almost a 2/3 majority...big trouble for the GOP, AND big trouble for them "down ticket" for the Congressional and Senate races. For once, whack job Pat Buchanan may be right in prognosticating that the GOP will cede all control of the House for many years to come. I don't think the Dems can take cloture-proof control of the Senate (maybe in the mid-terms), but they'll easily pick up 5, and perhaps 6, seats. With that, there will be enough leverage against northeastern and western Republican senators to provide a foil against right wing filibusters by wacky southerners and Texans. PREDICTION: Dick Cheney will be indicted by Justice over "Plamegate" some time in '08, and will do a Nixonian stonewall, citing "executive privilege"...which he doesn't even have! |
the truth about this "DeserTBob"
To all who may read this at any future date:
Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood. "DeserTBob" is an unemployed illegal alien from the West Coast USA. He was a former Bell Systems employee "phone guy" who was fired from his job- he faked an injury to get disability- so now he sits home and trolls the internet, harassing people- for lack of anything else constructive to do. "DeserTBob" bought 2 items from "66fourdoor" on Ebay at one time. One was an 8-track alignment tape- the other was a VHS movie tape. "DeserTBob" was unhappy with the items, the seller agreed willingly to issue a full refund (still that seller's policy to this day), once the items were returned. "DeserTBob" returned the alignment tape and received a full $40 refund. "DeserTBob" kept the VHS tape because in reality, there was nothing wrong with either item- and the movie tape was a rare out of print NON- COPYRIGHTED movie, otherwise unavailable. (it has since been re-released on DVD). The returned alignment tape was later resold to another buyer on Ebay, who left positive feedback for it. "DeserTBob" then left a negative feedback for the seller, even though he got a full refund- "DesertBob" has continued to harass the seller and seller's family ever since, for over 3 years now. This is nothing new to "DeserTBob"- rather, it's way of life for him- he also purchased (8) tapes from another seller for ONE CENT each, only to leave the seller 8 negative feedbacks, stating "not worth a penny". Eventually a large quantity of complaints started flooding into Ebay, concerning "DeserTBob" and his auction harassment. Ebay then banned DeserTBob's Ebay username, which was "VOXPOPPER". "DeserTBob" then returned to Ebay using a second name, calling himself "XCALIBER44"- and started once again harassing various Ebay sellers' auctions. He was again reported to Ebay, and "XCALIBER44" was also banned. These current slanders/libels against Ebay sellers by "DeserTBob" are completely unfounded- if you check the seller's feedback, you'll find they have 99.9% positive feedback, with only 2 negatives in 6 years. "DeserTBob" simply has an axe to grind, for being banned from Ebay himself. Furthermore, "DeserTBob" is decidedly anti-American, anti-USA, hates the military, and is basically a socialist-communist-liberal left-wing radical. He fears and despises anyone religious in any way, and he also doesn't believe in God. "DeserTBob" once posted a comment on Usenet that said "**** Christmas". He can't accomplish anything himself, so he tears down other good Americans who are out there, trying to make a living. He goes through a yearly holiday depression and attacks everyone on the internet, even moreso during holiday seasons- he has no family to speak of, and obviously suffers from not being loved by his mother enough, as a child. |
the truth about this "DeserTBob"
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:19:36 -0800 (PST), trippin-2-8-track
wrote: To all who may read this at any future date: Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood. snip ....and here he is, again....the paranoid delusional and erstwhile eBay con artist from Drums (known by many at "Bumler"), PA, Charlie Nudo! Learn more about how this room temperature IQ moron from one of the most depressed and polluted parts of the US has managed to shoot himself in the foot through stupidity, greed and "bad genes" at: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com ....or simply Google "Charlie Nudo" and be amazed! |
Let the caucus circus begin!
On Jan 3, 3:11 pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
Here's my take at Iowa, although I'm not betting the farm on it...the race is still wide open even as the caucuses open: Democratic winner: Clinton (or possibly Edwards) Republican winner: Huckabee Out of contention by New Hampshi Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Thompson, Paul, Hunter. Interesting comments. I doubt Huckabee will survive long in the Primaries. He'll be way behind in any of the New Hamsphire vote and I suspect Super-Tuesday will kill him, if he isn't already dead in the water by then. -Tom Sr. |
Let the caucus circus begin!
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:11:58 -0800, DeserTBoB
wrote: Here's my take at Iowa, although I'm not betting the farm on it...the race is still wide open even as the caucuses open: Democratic winner: Clinton (or possibly Edwards) snip Well, I'm off to a bad start THIS election season! Republican winner: Huckabee snip Got that one right, but he'll be gone soon. He'll suck air in New Hampshire, get some support in SC, but will be buried on "Tsunami Tuesday." I think the same will happen to Obama, as well. |
On to New Hampster
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:13:30 -0800 (PST), "Tom Sr."
wrote: On Jan 3, 3:11 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Here's my take at Iowa, although I'm not betting the farm on it...the race is still wide open even as the caucuses open: Democratic winner: Clinton (or possibly Edwards) Republican winner: Huckabee Out of contention by New Hampshi Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Thompson, Paul, Hunter. Interesting comments. I doubt Huckabee will survive long in the Primaries. He'll be way behind in any of the New Hamsphire vote and I suspect Super-Tuesday will kill him, if he isn't already dead in the water by then. -Tom Sr. snip Agreed. The stories I got out of Iowa tonight a 1.) Record youth turnout at the Dem caucuses, and record turnout by all Democrats. That played well for Obama, not-so-hot for Edwards and badly for Clinton, who needed the middle-aged and older female vote that just didn't coalesce for her, and who went for...get this...Obama! The real worry for Hillary isn't Obama, proper...rather it's that Edwards beat her, even if only by a nose. Lesson: Hillary's whole campaign needs to be retooled..."experience" doesn't work anymore, neither does her being a "change" agent. Of course, this is only IOWA...49 states left, not to mention "Tsunami Tuesday." Also, don't EVER forget..."Comeback Kid" Clinton LOVES to run as an underdog and so, naturally, does she. Bill has been a genius in working the "underdog" spot in every election he's ever been in, and yes...he's very active in Hillary's campaign strategy. 2.) 60% of ALL Republican caucusers were self-styled "evangelicals." If you follow the underlying Huckabee logic, he should have run the table, but he didn't. Telling is that 14% of "evangelicals" went for Romney! Enjoy it now, Huckleberry...America's not ready for yet another "talk to God" guy in the White House...not to mention one who resembles Gomer Pyle a bit too much for comfort. 3.) BIG news of the GOP: Guiliani only pulled 3%! 3%!!!! Even Ron Paul beat him! So much for his "name recognition" and being "America's mayor." Yoo hoo, Rootie Tootie...it's not working anymore. Guiliani thinks that firing up late (in Florida, where he thinks all the snowbird retirees from NYC will all flock to him) he can just assume the top slot from there into "Tsunami Tuesday," but that strategy could be his immediate undoing. Mega-advantage: McCain, who may take New Hampshire and has already announced he'll be going, not to South Carolina, where the churchers will drool over Huckabee, but Michigan, where he can bury Romney on his home turf. Should McCain clean Romney's clock in MI, he can then kick Giuliani out of the #1 spot in the national polls...which Giuliani's been doing to himself just in the last couple of weeks anyway...and thus out of the box on "Tsunami Tuesday." 4.) Overall: BOTH parties are sick and tired of the status quo. Bush has destroyed the GOP machine that used to anoint their nominees prior to ANY primaries. "Experience" also isn't playing well to GOP voters anymore, just as it backfired on Hillary in Iowa. I mean, look at all the "experience" that Dumbsfeld and Cheney have, and they, along with their addled-brained boss, have almost tanked the whole country! Same works against Hillary, whose refusal to abandon her Iraq position came back to bite her in the fanny. Both Huckabee and Obama, for their respective parties, represent a complete "throw the bums out" attitude. This, however, will ultimately benefit McCain on the GOP side, but who gets the bow on the Dem side depends solely on how much overhauling of Clinton gets done by "Tsunami Tuesday." Edwards showed tonight that he can indeed cash in on the "change" platform, but he'd better be prepared to take on Obama head to head, NOT Hillary. Early picks in NH: Obama for the Dems, McCain for the GOP, but anything can happen in a week! Romney may unleash robotic Mormons into every nook and cranny of the state this weekend, so who knows? One thing's for sure...for McCain to win in NH, he's got to stop hemorrhaging votes of the "indies" to Obama; else, Romney gets the win. He can do that now only by painting Obama as a "babe in the woods" compared to his own long Senate career as an "outsider," and he definitely has those credentials. |
On to New Hampster
On Jan 4, 3:09*am, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:13:30 -0800 (PST), "Tom Sr." wrote: On Jan 3, 3:11 pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Here's my take at Iowa, although I'm not betting the farm on it...the race is still wide open even as the caucuses open: Democratic winner: *Clinton (or possibly Edwards) Republican winner: *Huckabee Out of contention by New Hampshi Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Thompson, Paul, Hunter. Interesting comments. I doubt Huckabee will survive long in the Primaries. *He'll be way behind in any of the New Hamsphire vote and I suspect Super-Tuesday will kill him, if he isn't already dead in the water by then. -Tom Sr. snip Agreed. *The stories I got out of Iowa tonight a 1.) *Record youth turnout at the Dem caucuses, and record turnout by all Democrats. *That played well for Obama, not-so-hot for Edwards and badly for Clinton, who needed the middle-aged and older female vote that just didn't coalesce for her, and who went for...get this...Obama! *The real worry for Hillary isn't Obama, proper...rather it's that Edwards beat her, even if only by a nose. *Lesson: Hillary's whole campaign needs to be retooled..."experience" doesn't work anymore, neither does her being a "change" agent. *Of course, this is only IOWA...49 states left, not to mention "Tsunami Tuesday." Also, don't EVER forget..."Comeback Kid" Clinton LOVES to run as an underdog and so, naturally, does she. *Bill has been a genius in working the "underdog" spot in every election he's ever been in, and yes...he's very active in Hillary's campaign strategy. 2.) *60% of ALL Republican caucusers were self-styled "evangelicals." If you follow the underlying Huckabee logic, he should have run the table, but he didn't. *Telling is that 14% of "evangelicals" went for Romney! *Enjoy it now, Huckleberry...America's not ready for yet another "talk to God" guy in the White House...not to mention one who resembles Gomer Pyle a bit too much for comfort. 3.) *BIG news of the GOP: *Guiliani only pulled 3%! *3%!!!! *Even Ron Paul beat him! *So much for his "name recognition" and being "America's mayor." *Yoo hoo, Rootie Tootie...it's not working anymore. Guiliani thinks that firing up late (in Florida, where he thinks all the snowbird retirees from NYC will all flock to him) he can just assume the top slot from there into "Tsunami Tuesday," but that strategy could be his immediate undoing. *Mega-advantage: *McCain, who may take New Hampshire and has already announced he'll be going, not to South Carolina, where the churchers will drool over Huckabee, but Michigan, where he can bury Romney on his home turf. *Should McCain clean Romney's clock in MI, he can then kick Giuliani out of the #1 spot in the national polls...which Giuliani's been doing to himself just in the last couple of weeks anyway...and thus out of the box on "Tsunami Tuesday." 4.) *Overall: *BOTH parties are sick and tired of the status quo. Bush has destroyed the GOP machine that used to anoint their nominees prior to ANY primaries. *"Experience" also isn't playing well to GOP voters anymore, just as it backfired on Hillary in Iowa. *I mean, look at all the "experience" that Dumbsfeld and Cheney have, and they, along with their addled-brained boss, have almost tanked the whole country! *Same works against Hillary, whose refusal to abandon her Iraq position came back to bite her in the fanny. *Both Huckabee and Obama, for their respective parties, represent a complete "throw the bums out" attitude. *This, however, will ultimately benefit McCain on the GOP side, but who gets the bow on the Dem side depends solely on how much overhauling of Clinton gets done by "Tsunami Tuesday." Edwards showed tonight that he can indeed cash in on the "change" platform, but he'd better be prepared to take on Obama head to head, NOT Hillary. Early picks in NH: *Obama for the Dems, McCain for the GOP, but anything can happen in a week! *Romney may unleash robotic Mormons into every nook and cranny of the state this weekend, so who knows? One thing's for sure...for McCain to win in NH, he's got to stop hemorrhaging votes of the "indies" to Obama; else, Romney gets the win. *He can do that now only by painting Obama as a "babe in the woods" compared to his own long Senate career as an "outsider," and he definitely has those credentials.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - To all who may read this at any future date: Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood. "DeserTBob" is an unemployed illegal alien from the West Coast USA. He was a former Bell Systems employee "phone guy" who was fired from his job- he faked an injury to get disability- so now he sits home and trolls the internet, harassing people- for lack of anything else constructive to do. "DeserTBob" bought 2 items from "66fourdoor" on Ebay at one time. One was an 8-track alignment tape- the other was a VHS movie tape. "DeserTBob" was unhappy with the items, the seller agreed willingly to issue a full refund (still that seller's policy to this day), once the items were returned. "DeserTBob" returned the alignment tape and received a full $40 refund. "DeserTBob" kept the VHS tape because in reality, there was nothing wrong with either item- and the movie tape was a rare out of print NON- COPYRIGHTED movie, otherwise unavailable. (it has since been re-released on DVD). The returned alignment tape was later resold to another buyer on Ebay, who left positive feedback for it. "DeserTBob" then left a negative feedback for the seller, even though he got a full refund- "DesertBob" has continued to harass the seller and seller's family ever since, for over 3 years now. This is nothing new to "DeserTBob"- rather, it's way of life for him- he also purchased (8) tapes from another seller for ONE CENT each, only to leave the seller 8 negative feedbacks, stating "not worth a penny". Eventually a large quantity of complaints started flooding into Ebay, concerning "DeserTBob" and his auction harassment. Ebay then banned DeserTBob's Ebay username, which was "VOXPOPPER". "DeserTBob" then returned to Ebay using a second name, calling himself "XCALIBER44"- and started once again harassing various Ebay sellers' auctions. He was again reported to Ebay, and "XCALIBER44" was also banned. These current slanders/libels against Ebay sellers by "DeserTBob" are completely unfounded- if you check the seller's feedback, you'll find they have 99.9% positive feedback, with only 2 negatives in 6 years. "DeserTBob" simply has an axe to grind, for being banned from Ebay himself. Furthermore, "DeserTBob" is decidedly anti-American, anti-USA, hates the military, and is basically a socialist-communist-liberal left- wing radical. He fears and despises anyone religious in any way, and he also doesn't believe in God. "DeserTBob" once posted a comment on Usenet that said "**** Christmas". He can't accomplish anything himself, so he tears down other good Americans who are out there, trying to make a living. He goes through a yearly holiday depression and attacks everyone on the internet, even moreso during holiday seasons- he has no family to speak of, and obviously suffers from not being loved by his mother enough, as a child. |
On to New Hampster
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 05:45:47 -0800 (PST), Charlie Nudo, posing as
trippin-2-8-track , the last of his 29 BANNED Google Groups account, wrote: To all who may read this at any future date: Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood. snip Hey Noodles...if you're keyboard doesn't work anymore, maybe you can go to the local junk store (where you bought your old PII anyway) and get another one. This idiot, Charles M. Nudo of Drums, PA, a prolific eBay thief as "66fourdoor" and "66-catalina" and a certifiable whacko, has "issues," says his local police chief. See more about this paranoid delusional, tax evading nut bag at: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com ....or simply Google "Charlie Nudo" and be amazed! |
On to New Hampster
On Jan 4, 10:18*am, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 05:45:47 -0800 (PST), Charlie Nudo, posing as trippin-2-8-track , the last of his 29 BANNED Google Groups account, *wrote: To all who may read this at any future date: Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood. snip Hey DoucheBob...if you're keyboard doesn't work anymore, maybe you can go to the local junk store (where you bought your old PII anyway) and get another one. This idiot, Bob Scarredbutthole of Lancaster, Ca.- a prolific eBay harasser via banned named "voxpopper" and "xcaliber44" and a certifiable whacko, has "issues," says his local police chief. *See more about this paranoid delusional, tax evading nut bag at: www.bobscarredbutthole.com ...or simply Google "DeserTBob" and be amazed! Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood. "DeserTBob" is an unemployed illegal alien from the West Coast USA. He was a former Bell Systems employee "phone guy" who was fired from his job- he faked an injury to get disability- so now he sits home and trolls the internet, harassing people- for lack of anything else constructive to do. "DeserTBob" bought 2 items from "66fourdoor" on Ebay at one time. One was an 8-track alignment tape- the other was a VHS movie tape. "DeserTBob" was unhappy with the items, the seller agreed willingly to issue a full refund (still that seller's policy to this day), once the items were returned. "DeserTBob" returned the alignment tape and received a full $40 refund. "DeserTBob" kept the VHS tape because in reality, there was nothing wrong with either item- and the movie tape was a rare out of print NON- COPYRIGHTED movie, otherwise unavailable. (it has since been re-released on DVD). The returned alignment tape was later resold to another buyer on Ebay, who left positive feedback for it. "DeserTBob" then left a negative feedback for the seller, even though he got a full refund- "DesertBob" has continued to harass the seller and seller's family ever since, for over 3 years now. This is nothing new to "DeserTBob"- rather, it's way of life for him- he also purchased (8) tapes from another seller for ONE CENT each, only to leave the seller 8 negative feedbacks, stating "not worth a penny". Eventually a large quantity of complaints started flooding into Ebay, concerning "DeserTBob" and his auction harassment. Ebay then banned DeserTBob's Ebay username, which was "VOXPOPPER". "DeserTBob" then returned to Ebay using a second name, calling himself "XCALIBER44"- and started once again harassing various Ebay sellers' auctions. He was again reported to Ebay, and "XCALIBER44" was also banned. These current slanders/libels against Ebay sellers by "DeserTBob" are completely unfounded- if you check the seller's feedback, you'll find they have 99.9% positive feedback, with only 2 negatives in 6 years. "DeserTBob" simply has an axe to grind, for being banned from Ebay himself. Furthermore, "DeserTBob" is decidedly anti-American, anti-USA, hates the military, and is basically a socialist-communist-liberal left- wing radical. He fears and despises anyone religious in any way, and he also doesn't believe in God. "DeserTBob" once posted a comment on Usenet that said "**** Christmas". He can't accomplish anything himself, so he tears down other good Americans who are out there, trying to make a living. He goes through a yearly holiday depression and attacks everyone on the internet, even moreso during holiday seasons- he has no family to speak of, and obviously suffers from not being loved by his mother enough, as a child. |
the truth about this "DeserTBob"
Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood.
"DeserTBob" is an unemployed illegal alien from the West Coast USA. He was a former Bell Systems employee "phone guy" who was fired from his job- he faked an injury to get disability- so now he sits home and trolls the internet, harassing people- for lack of anything else constructive to do. "DeserTBob" bought 2 items from "66fourdoor" on Ebay at one time. One was an 8-track alignment tape- the other was a VHS movie tape. "DeserTBob" was unhappy with the items, the seller agreed willingly to issue a full refund (still that seller's policy to this day), once the items were returned. "DeserTBob" returned the alignment tape and received a full $40 refund. "DeserTBob" kept the VHS tape because in reality, there was nothing wrong with either item- and the movie tape was a rare out of print NON- COPYRIGHTED movie, otherwise unavailable. (it has since been re-released on DVD). The returned alignment tape was later resold to another buyer on Ebay, who left positive feedback for it. "DeserTBob" then left a negative feedback for the seller, even though he got a full refund- "DesertBob" has continued to harass the seller and seller's family ever since, for over 3 years now. This is nothing new to "DeserTBob"- rather, it's way of life for him- he also purchased (8) tapes from another seller for ONE CENT each, only to leave the seller 8 negative feedbacks, stating "not worth a penny". Eventually a large quantity of complaints started flooding into Ebay, concerning "DeserTBob" and his auction harassment. Ebay then banned DeserTBob's Ebay username, which was "VOXPOPPER". "DeserTBob" then returned to Ebay using a second name, calling himself "XCALIBER44"- and started once again harassing various Ebay sellers' auctions. He was again reported to Ebay, and "XCALIBER44" was also banned. These current slanders/libels against Ebay sellers by "DeserTBob" are completely unfounded- if you check the seller's feedback, you'll find they have 99.9% positive feedback, with only 2 negatives in 6 years. "DeserTBob" simply has an axe to grind, for being banned from Ebay himself. Furthermore, "DeserTBob" is decidedly anti-American, anti-USA, hates the military, and is basically a socialist-communist-liberal left- wing radical. He fears and despises anyone religious in any way, and he also doesn't believe in God. "DeserTBob" once posted a comment on Usenet that said "**** Christmas". He can't accomplish anything himself, so he tears down other good Americans who are out there, trying to make a living. He goes through a yearly holiday depression and attacks everyone on the internet, even moreso during holiday seasons- he has no family to speak of, and obviously suffers from not being loved by his mother enough, as a child. |
On to New Hampster
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:09:48 -0800, DeserTBoB
wrote: I doubt Huckabee will survive long in the Primaries. He'll be way behind in any of the New Hamsphire vote and I suspect Super-Tuesday will kill him, if he isn't already dead in the water by then. -Tom Sr. snip Which means that unless Giuiliani can win, we'll get Romney. I'm sure that works fine for Dems because the RR isn't likely to give him enough support to keep even Hillary out of office. Agreed. The stories I got out of Iowa tonight a 1.) Record youth turnout at the Dem caucuses, and record turnout by all Democrats. That played well for Obama, not-so-hot for Edwards He took 2nd in a virtual tie with third place Clinton. That Clinton didn't finish first is notable, that Edwards did as well as she did is a miracle. But can he keep it up? He's got to do better than third place in at least the next three primaries to even have a chance. and badly for Clinton, who needed the middle-aged and older female vote that just didn't coalesce for her, and who went for...get this...Obama! And Edwards. Of the three, Hillary got the smallest share of that vote and ironically, it was a vote she was specially courting in Iowa. I'll bet the Clinton camp is worried ****less and getting ready for a major change in voter targeting. The real worry for Hillary isn't Obama, proper...rather it's that Edwards beat her, even if only by a nose. Lesson: Hillary's whole campaign needs to be retooled..."experience" doesn't work anymore, neither does her being a "change" agent. She's not a "change" agent, she's a return to the past. Not that the nineties is all that bad a past to return to . . . Of course, this is only IOWA...49 states left, not to mention "Tsunami Tuesday." "Super" Tuesday. I'll bet Georgia will go for Obama and Huckabee. Also, don't EVER forget..."Comeback Kid" Clinton LOVES to run as an underdog and so, naturally, does she. Bill has been a genius in working the "underdog" spot in every election he's ever been in, and yes...he's very active in Hillary's campaign strategy. Makes sense. 2.) 60% of ALL Republican caucusers were self-styled "evangelicals." If you follow the underlying Huckabee logic, he should have run the table, but he didn't. Telling is that 14% of "evangelicals" went for Romney! Enjoy it now, Huckleberry...America's not ready for yet another "talk to God" guy in the White House...not to mention one who resembles Gomer Pyle a bit too much for comfort. But he's the Republican most likely to turn out the Evangelical vote, just as Giuliani is the Repulican most likely to bleed votes off Clinton. 3.) BIG news of the GOP: Guiliani only pulled 3%! 3%!!!! Even Ron Paul beat him! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! In hindsight it makes sense. The RR won't vote for Giuliani, the midwest isn't likely to vote for a New Yorker and western independence and liberty voters are ones Ron Paul appeals to. So much for his "name recognition" and being "America's mayor." Yoo hoo, Rootie Tootie...it's not working anymore. Guiliani thinks that firing up late (in Florida, where he thinks all the snowbird retirees from NYC will all flock to him) And if they do? he can just assume the top slot from there into "Tsunami Tuesday," but that strategy could be his immediate undoing. He's done far to badly in Iowa. I'm not sure he can even be considered a serious contender. Giuliani's biggest influence on this election may end up being who he throws his support to by convention time. The Dems nominate first and their nominee will have a lot of influence on the Rep choice (unless one of them starts running away with the race). Mega-advantage: McCain, who may take New Hampshire and has already announced he'll be going, not to South Carolina, where the churchers will drool over Huckabee, but Michigan, where he can bury Romney on his home turf. Should McCain clean Romney's clock in MI, he can then kick Giuliani out of the #1 spot in the national polls...which Giuliani's been doing to himself just in the last couple of weeks anyway...and thus out of the box on "Tsunami Tuesday." If, if, if. McCain can still bleed a few left of center votes from the Dems but will the Fundies vote for him? 4.) Overall: BOTH parties are sick and tired of the status quo. Major error there, man. The PARTIES are perfectly happy with the status quo. It's the center that's sick and tired of it. Bush has destroyed the GOP machine that used to anoint their nominees prior to ANY primaries. "Experience" also isn't playing well to GOP voters anymore, just as it backfired on Hillary in Iowa. I mean, look at all the "experience" that Dumbsfeld and Cheney have, and they, along with their addled-brained boss, have almost tanked the whole country! Bush was no more experienced than Huckabee or Edwards when he was elected. His lack of knowledge about international issues was a major criticism of him by Dems in 2000. Same works against Hillary, whose refusal to abandon her Iraq position came back to bite her in the fanny. I understand it perfectly. She won't apologize because the mistake wasn't hers. It was the adminisration's for providing faulty information to the Congress in order to bypass reality and do what it wanted. Both Huckabee and Obama, for their respective parties, represent a complete "throw the bums out" attitude. I don't see that with Hucakbee. The only "throw the bums out" candidates I percieve are Obama, Edwards and Paul. This, however, will ultimately benefit McCain on the GOP side, but who gets the bow on the Dem side depends solely on how much overhauling of Clinton gets done by "Tsunami Tuesday." Edwards showed tonight that he can indeed cash in on the "change" platform, but he'd better be prepared to take on Obama head to head, NOT Hillary. I hate to make predictions 'cause I'm so often wrong, but I suspect a pair of very interesting conventions. Both parties seem to be splitting between candidates. Romney is pretty. He's just not fast on his feet and isn't well prepared to deal with his detractors. Huckabee is undeniably a Bush Republican. Devout, liberal and spendthrift, he's pure status quo and a likely GOP choice. McCain is going to have to work hard and that will take a toll on his health unless he has excellent staffing. Early picks in NH: Obama for the Dems, McCain for the GOP, but anything can happen in a week! Romney may unleash robotic Mormons into every nook and cranny of the state this weekend, so who knows? More likely Huckabee will try to flood the state with volunteers. One thing's for sure...for McCain to win in NH, he's got to stop hemorrhaging votes of the "indies" to Obama; else, Romney gets the win. Can't add anything to that. McCain offended his center by sucking up to the RR. He has to make up for that and fast. He also needs to give compelling arguments on issues other than Iraq. The voters are looking at other positions as well. He can do that now only by painting Obama as a "babe in the woods" compared to his own long Senate career as an "outsider," and he definitely has those credentials. Yes, McCain has a streak of that western state independence and that's something he may be able to capitalize on. Nobody seems yet to be going after him, but they'll start if he does well in NH. Swill |
the truth about this "Charlie Nudo"
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 08:40:18 -0800 (PST), trippin-2-8-track
wrote: Everything "DeserTBob" is saying, is a complete falsehood. "DeserTBob" is an unemployed illegal alien from the West Coast USA. snip Right wingtard/paranoid delusional Charlie Nudo must say "bye bye" now. Turn his repetitive, cut-and-pasted harassment/lie message to: ....and To learn more about this nut bag and his exploits on Usenet and eBay, see: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com ....or simply Google "Charlie Nudo" and be amazed! |
On to New Hampster
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:55:52 -0500, Governor Swill
wrote: "Super" Tuesday. I'll bet Georgia will go for Obama and Huckabee. snip Safe bet. 3.) BIG news of the GOP: Guiliani only pulled 3%! 3%!!!! Even Ron Paul beat him! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! If, if, if. McCain can still bleed a few left of center votes from the Dems but will the Fundies vote for him? snip Nope. Bush was no more experienced than Huckabee or Edwards when he was elected. His lack of knowledge about international issues was a major criticism of him by Dems in 2000. snip ....which turned out to be the most correct prophecy in ANY election cycle thus far. Same works against Hillary, whose refusal to abandon her Iraq position came back to bite her in the fanny. I understand it perfectly. She won't apologize because the mistake wasn't hers. It was the adminisration's for providing faulty information to the Congress in order to bypass reality and do what it wanted. snip Well, WE know that. The idiots out there who vote don't get it. I understand why she did what she did (along with Dianne Feinstein and others)...but the 'tard vote (an ever-increasing slice of the American populace) just aren't smart enough to put together Tinkertoys, let alone the history of the Cheneyburton deception. I hate to make predictions 'cause I'm so often wrong, but I suspect a pair of very interesting conventions. Both parties seem to be splitting between candidates. snip The Dems can handle it; the GOP can't, since floor fights go against their very existence and interrupts their goose stepping. A floor fight at the GNC will rend the party into unrecoverable shards. Huckabee is undeniably a Bush Republican. Devout, liberal and spendthrift, he's pure status quo and a likely GOP choice. snip Best concise description of Huckleberry yet. Thing is, how long will it take the more moderate churchers to figure out that he's just "more of the same" as Dubya? |
Chalie Nudo makes a stupid post again- proving Charlie Nudo is a moron...again
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 08:27:53 -0800 (PST), righttard Charlie "Noodles"
Nudo of Bear Run Dr., Drums, PA, this time posing as trippin-2-8-track (only one left of 29 banned Google Groups accounts) wrote: On Jan 3, 3:11*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: Here's my take at Iowa, although I'm not betting the farm on it...the race is still wide open even as the caucuses open: Democratic winner: *Clinton (or possibly Edwards) Republican winner: *Huckabee Out of contention by New Hampshi Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Thompson, Paul, Hunter. Rationale: *Clinton's been picking up the undecideds, and "soft" support for Obama is eroding. *Edwards, though, has the wind of momentum behind him going into caucus day. *Turnout is crucial for Obama, and he might not get all he needs of first timers to put him over, while ****ed off Maytag employees and union members for Edwards have been working very hard, as have Hillary's people, to boost their core turnout bases. *BIG negative for Obama: *"Oprahfest," which turns out to have turned OFF as many potential supporters as it was supposed to have turned ON. *Oprah's more polarizing than Hillary could ever be, and fawning housefraus who love her are more than offset by others who cannot STAND her. The BIG battle in New Hampshire is a weird one fostered by New Hampshire's wacky "open primary for independents only" system. *Now, we have Obama fighting for votes directly against McCain, of all people! *This could skew New Hampshire results to the point of irrelevance as far as the party nominations go, but would give McCain some badly needed fuel to burn into South Carolina, and could give Obama a lift after a probable loss to Clinton (or Edwards) in Iowa. Right now, Romney's the GOP favorite in New Hampshire, with Clinton back to leading Obama...but that's only among party regulars. *Once you throw the independents into the fray, things get murky, although it does make McCain a contender again, if a weak one. *Huckabee won't even come close in New Hampshire, and he's already in retrograde in Iowa, but may win there anyway, due to the robotic churcher vote. Those Episcopalians and Congregationalists in New England will have nothing of some southern preacher in THEIR neck o' the woods...ayuh! An Edwards win in Iowa could be parlayed into big news for him if he takes South Carolina, where he's got the home state advantage. *The GOP in SC is nothing but chaos, providing yet another opening for McCain. *Romney and Giuliani are both sinking there, where they're duking it out with Huckabee over the churchers. *A McCain win in SC will do the greatest damage to Romney, who was hoping to take the state in a cake walk after a big, paid-for win in New Hampshire. The sad fact of our flawed system is that we'll lose two excellent candidates, Joe Biden (D-DE) and Chris Dodd (D-CT). *Both are probably the best qualified in foreign and defense policy to hold office, but somehow never got what Nixon once called "the big bow" from the party or the public. *You have to throw Richardson in there for qualifications, too, but he's just plain unelectable. *The media's probably as much to blame for this as is the DNC, but at least we'll still have both of them in the Senate after the dust stops blowing. My gut tells me Richardson will wind up in a Cabinet post (his forte) shortly after the Democratic win in November. Over on the other side, the GOP doesn't lose much, if anything. Paul...tin foil hats, freemason demons *and black choppers. Hunter...California Republican Assembly-favored *whack job and defense contractor shill who probably won't even win reelection in his own district. *Tancredo at least had the sense to get out before getting steamrollered. As far as the general goes, voters favor "any Democrat" over "any Republican" by almost a 2/3 majority...big trouble for the GOP, AND big trouble for them "down ticket" for the Congressional and Senate races. *For once, whack job Pat Buchanan may be right in prognosticating that the GOP will cede all control of the House for many years to come. *I don't think the Dems can take cloture-proof control of the Senate (maybe in the mid-terms), but they'll easily pick up 5, and perhaps 6, seats. *With that, there will be enough leverage against northeastern and western Republican senators to provide a foil against right wing filibusters by wacky southerners and Texans. PREDICTION: *Dick Cheney will be indicted by Justice over "Plamegate" some time in '08, and will do a Nixonian stonewall, citing "executive privilege"...which he doesn't even have! see what I mean ? disregard anything this "DeserTBob" says- he's obviously in his own little world, and not living in reality Hillary came in 3rd- she's a dead player ! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/ap_po/clinton_9 snip Hey Noodles...bet your house on that. Please. I'd love to see you run out into the cold. NEVER count the "Comeback Kids" out of ANY race where they're behind. You, as usual, don't have the cranial horsepower to review history. If you did, you'd hedge any bet on Clinton being a "dead player." Even the biggest horse's ass in the Repug Party, Newt the Galoot Gingrich, agrees with me on that, as do some of your other heroes, like Pat Buchanan. Either party's winner in Iowa has a statistically proven 75% chance of getting the big nomination bow (but not the grand prize) at the end...but that only holds true in a race where there's an incumbent running on the other side. We haven't had a "wide open" race for the presidency like this since 1952...and you'll remember Iowa going to Estes Kefauver for the Dems, but Adlai Stevenson got the big bow...but then again, you're too stupid to even know that. '60 doesn't count, since Nixon was the "heir apparent" by virtue of having the VP slot and lost anyway. He then went on to get his ass kicked in California in '62 by Pat Brown, and then found "dirty tricks." For the GOP, Iowa has screwed up twice, once with "Bush The Smarter" in '80 (RayGun took the bow) and with Bob "The Wal-Mart Greeter" Dole in '88 (and "Bush The Smarter" took THAT one!) So go ahead and prognosticate Hillary as a "dead player." Bet your house on it...please. For more on the nut job I'm replying to, see: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com ....or just Google "Charlie Nudo" and be amazed! LONG VIEW: Brown Jr. will again run for governor of California once we're rid of Der Gröpenfuehrer. And yes, had CAN do that constitutionally (he ought to know...he's the AG now who kicked the Armenian threat Poochigian to the curb last time) and early straw polling shows him to be a front runner among Democratic Clubs in the state. The Calif. Republican Assembly, a wrinkled gathering of far right lunatics waning in statewide power, will try to run nut bag Tom McClintock yet again and could possibly be run out of the state GOP for all time should he lose...again. The CRA has polluted their state offices with hard bitten right wingers, and they have NO moderates to go up against Brown, thus giving him a big edge. Meanwhile, back at the smoking tent, AHHHnuld has all but left the GOP in everything but name only and has been openly fighting the Bushies, backing Brown's suit against the Bush EPA over their interference (remember "states right?" Wasn't that a REPUBLICAN theme??) over carbon emissions mandates passed by the Legislature and championed by AHHHnuld. |
On to New Hampster
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:51:05 -0800, DeserTBoB
wrote: Best concise description of Huckleberry yet. Thing is, how long will it take the more moderate churchers to figure out that he's just "more of the same" as Dubya? They know that. That's why they like him. Swill |
On to New Hampster
On Jan 5, 4:29*am, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:51:05 -0800, DeserTBoB wrote: Best concise description of Huckleberry yet. *Thing is, how long will it take the more moderate churchers to figure out that he's just "more of the same" as Dubya? They know that. *That's why they like him. Swill looks like another Republican in the White House in 2009... Hillary is toast, and there's no way Obama will ever beat a Republican, no matter who it is. Notice how left-wing fringer DeserTBob is against Obama- because DeserTBob is a racist- like all the other liberals are |
On to New Hampster
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:29:57 -0500, Governor Swill
wrote: On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:51:05 -0800, DeserTBoB wrote: Best concise description of Huckleberry yet. Thing is, how long will it take the more moderate churchers to figure out that he's just "more of the same" as Dubya? They know that. That's why they like him. snip The righttards in trailers, yes...but the ones closer to the political center, the "mainline" congregations, have been vehemently opposed to the war and all of Bush's antics for quite some time. Many of these (such as well-off Episcopalians and the like) went for Bush based on greed two times. Will they make the same choice with Huckabee, even though he's got no credible record of prosperity (AND isn't the rabid tax cutter that such a constituency wants) when they have Mitt to promise them all that business acumen (warranted or not) to keep them rolling in dough? Downscale economically, rightward-learning-but-still centrist church goers may perceive Huckabee as a threat launched from the Southern Baptists. You watch...those Congregationalists and Episcopalians in New Hampshire will have NOTHING to do with Huckabee, even if he floods the state with robotic church nuts to walk precincts. On another front, the news was all over the nation's front pages this morning...we're poised for the FOURTH "Dubya Recession"...prime mortgages are melting down, employment is drying up, the dollars is sliding further, aided by the Chinese. All of the sudden, I hear, "It's the economy, stupid!" which kicked "Bush The Smarter" into the political scrap heap in '92. Could this be the remodeling job that Clinton needs to beat Obama, or will Iraq and "change" trump the economic message this time out? |
On to New Hampster
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 05:16:12 -0800 (PST), Charles M. Nudo, Jr., Drums,
PA, posing as trippin-2-8-track (the last of his 29 Google Groups accounts not to be banned) wrote: looks like another Republican in the White House in 2009... Hillary is toast, and there's no way Obama will ever beat a Republican, no matter who it is.snip And you base this on what rationale...or are you just basing that on those always-present voices in your empty head? You should listen to your wife, Cheryl..."TAKE YA PILLZ, CHOLLY!" Notice how left-wing fringer DeserTBob is against Obama- because DeserTBob is a racist- like all the other liberals are snip Your mental illness is in full bloom again, just like it is every winter, Noodles! You really do need institutionalization. |
Let the caucus circus begin!
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Hillary and Obama dead players
On Jan 5, 7:29*pm, "William W Western"
wrote: The sad fact of our flawed system * * * * *http://www.slate.com/id/2181008/ by the looks of it, either Hillary or Obama will get the nom.- I don't believe either will win. There's still a majority of whites in this country- and also a lot a racism under the rug and in the closet- those people will come out and vote against Obama, just to vote against him. Same goes for Hillary- although things have changed some, sexist/male chauvinism attitudes are still alive and well in politics today. The problem these 2 Dems made, is trying to out-socialize each other with "give-aways" in the debates, playing down to the least common denominator in society. Most of those people, don't vote- even if you register them. |
On to New Hampster
DeserTBoB used a stick in the sand to babble
They know that. That's why they like him. snip The righttards in trailers, yes...but the ones closer to the political center, the "mainline" congregations, have been vehemently opposed to the war and all of Bush's antics for quite some time. They aren't admitting it. Yes, some evangelicals voted for Kerry in 2004 and for some dozens of Democrats in Congress in 2006, but that doesn't mean that they'll vote for Clinton or Obama in a general election. Edwards, maybe. Many of these (such as well-off Episcopalians and the like) went for Bush based on greed two times. Not based on the fundies' greed. That was the price they forced us all to pay for their social agenda. Will they make the same choice with Huckabee, even though he's got no credible record of prosperity (AND isn't the rabid tax cutter that such a constituency wants) when they have Mitt to promise them all that business acumen (warranted or not) to keep them rolling in dough? My impressions: I like a lot of what Huckabee says and has done. He's very much a compassionate man. His particular faith and background as a minister concern me. I think Romney's a fake. He's too pretty and while he speaks well and says most of the right things when he's prepared, he's slow on his feet and doesn't defend well in real time. And there's something phoney or greasy about him that I don't like. His faith doesn't concern me any more or less than Huckabee's. I liked McCain in 2000 and 04, but he looks a little tired and repetitive these days. Downscale economically, rightward-learning-but-still centrist church goers may perceive Huckabee as a threat launched from the Southern Baptists. You watch...those Congregationalists and Episcopalians in New Hampshire will have NOTHING to do with Huckabee, even if he floods the state with robotic church nuts to walk precincts. Or clean, smiling, polite Christian kids. On another front, the news was all over the nation's front pages this morning...we're poised for the FOURTH "Dubya Recession"...prime mortgages are melting down, employment is drying up, According to CNN this afternoon, retailers are hiring. the dollars is sliding further, aided by the Chinese. Not a problem. They're cashing in and we can work it to our advantage if we go forward rather than **** and moan about it. All of the sudden, I hear, "It's the economy, stupid!" which kicked "Bush The Smarter" into the political scrap heap in '92. Yeah, and look at all the furor about Iraq these days. The issue barely played in Iowa compared to others like immigration, values and the economy and look how the support structured. Could this be the remodeling job that Clinton needs to beat Obama, or will Iraq and "change" trump the economic message this time out? Bad news in Iraq is good news for Clinton and Paul, bad news for everybody else. If there's a terror attack check the candidates' responses for coherence *and* for how quickly they deliver it to a camera. Swill |
Hilary Fights Back.
Dear All
I just discovered this today when I signed on to my e-mail.It is a Yahoo news article on Hilary.She is now fighting back and is now rolling with the thunder of a candidate.Below is the link to the news article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/democrats_rdp I am hoping that Hilary can bounce back.She's better than any candidate running for office at the moment. I hoep that everyone in here has a wonderful evening.Sincerely Frank R.Schoonover |
Hey Noodles,You're The Moron! It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over!
On Jan 4, 11:27*am, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
Hillary came in 3rd- she's *a dead player ! Hey Noodles You've just proven that you're the MORON in here.Yes you are.The caucus's are nothing really.They are just tools to get more publicity for the candidates and to keep them going continuously in the news.That is all they are. As a wise man once said: It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over! Stuff that in your mouth and suck on it! The key is the September primaries.They are the ones that determine who runs for either side for president.After that,we hold our breaths until Election Day comes and ends. Besides,I wouldn't vote for either Obama,Edwards,McCain,Romney or Huckabee.Voting for any of those kooks is like voting for Ralph Nader.I know that it's extreme but that is the way I feel and think. Please take our advice.Please Think Before You Open Your Cum Filled Mouth.Better Yet,KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED.You'lll be doing us all a favor. Cya. |
Hey Noodles,You're The Moron! It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over!
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:29:01 -0800 (PST), imtheman
wrote: On Jan 4, 11:27*am, trippin-2-8-track wrote: Hillary came in 3rd- she's *a dead player ! snip Hold onto those words. We can make Charlie Nudo eat them for months! Hey Noodles You've just proven that you're the MORON in here.Yes you are.The caucus's are nothing really.They are just tools to get more publicity for the candidates and to keep them going continuously in the news.That is all they are. As a wise man once said: It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over! Stuff that in your mouth and suck on it! The key is the September primaries.They are the ones that determine who runs for either side for president.After that,we hold our breaths until Election Day comes and ends. Besides,I wouldn't vote for either Obama,Edwards,McCain,Romney or Huckabee.Voting for any of those kooks is like voting for Ralph Nader.I know that it's extreme but that is the way I feel and think. Please take our advice.Please Think Before You Open Your Cum Filled Mouth.Better Yet,KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED.You'lll be doing us all a favor. Cya. He should yank his thrift store computer out of the wall and throw it into Lake Bumler. His idiocy online only serves to embarrassing his kid at school, since they are well known to surf each others' names on the 'Net. When they Google "Charlie Nudo," the search result reflects directly on the kid first. He must get teased continually about his infamously stupid criminal father, a sad thing indeed, but it's all Charlie's fault. |
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