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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
I own a pristine copy of a volume titled "The Picatrix", published by
Ourobouros Press in 2001 in a limited edition of 1000 copies (mine is #331). I'm doing an appraisal of the current value of this book, so I searched Bookfinder to see what was listed there. There are several copies listed, ranging in price from a low of $204 to a high of over $500 (the latter from a Seattle brick and mortar store for a copy with a scuff on the cover!) One of the outliers, pricing a copy at $430, was an outfit called "seattle_bookseller". I wrote and asked why the price was so high, and got an amazingly vituperative and abusive response, stating that this "WAS HOW THE RARE BOOK BUSINESS WORKED" and that I "NEED A COURSE IN REMEDIAL ECONOMICS" and so on. I was a little surprised at this, but a little research turned up the even more surprising information that this seller is one "Luis M. Arsupial", the same person who was doing business (kinda) as "texas_bookseller" up until about six months ago, and who previously created a huge stink in this group over some questionable transactions! This kind of pricing seems like nothing more than gouging to me. I could buy two copies of this book for what this yoyo is asking for it. I can only assume that he's doing business on a basis of relying on his customers being ignorant and not doing their research. Based on the listings on Bookfinder, I'd estimate the value of this book at $225 to $250, certainly nowhere close to $430. Is this a usual practice? Do a lot of booksellers price their wares in the hopes that their buyers will be too stupid to know that they're being asked to pay twice what a book is worth? (Apparently this "Luis M. Arsupial"--"marsupial"...?--was once known as "Jason Christopher Hughes", a name which turns up a wide variety of odd and amazing postings on USENET...) |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
"Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)" wrote in message oups.com... I own a pristine copy of a volume titled "The Picatrix", published by Ourobouros Press in 2001 in a limited edition of 1000 copies (mine is #331). I'm doing an appraisal of the current value of this book, so I searched Bookfinder to see what was listed there. There are several copies listed, ranging in price from a low of $204 to a high of over $500 (the latter from a Seattle brick and mortar store for a copy with a scuff on the cover!) One of the outliers, pricing a copy at $430, was an outfit called "seattle_bookseller". I wrote and asked why the price was so high, and got an amazingly vituperative and abusive response, stating that this "WAS HOW THE RARE BOOK BUSINESS WORKED" and that I "NEED A COURSE IN REMEDIAL ECONOMICS" and so on. I was a little surprised at this, but a little research turned up the even more surprising information that this seller is one "Luis M. Arsupial", the same person who was doing business (kinda) as "texas_bookseller" up until about six months ago, and who previously created a huge stink in this group over some questionable transactions! This kind of pricing seems like nothing more than gouging to me. I could buy two copies of this book for what this yoyo is asking for it. I can only assume that he's doing business on a basis of relying on his customers being ignorant and not doing their research. Based on the listings on Bookfinder, I'd estimate the value of this book at $225 to $250, certainly nowhere close to $430. Is this a usual practice? Do a lot of booksellers price their wares in the hopes that their buyers will be too stupid to know that they're being asked to pay twice what a book is worth? (Apparently this "Luis M. Arsupial"--"marsupial"...?--was once known as "Jason Christopher Hughes", a name which turns up a wide variety of odd and amazing postings on USENET...) I remember some sort of hoo-haa over "Luis M. Arsupial" but forget the details, so my comments are general. First: Good for you for doing your homework! The first rule of internet book buying is "buyer beware". Second: While the seller's response to you was over the top and unprofessional, it's hard to know by how much without knowing how your inquiry was phrased. Did you say: "I collect this author and I'd be happy to know if you've got something special I haven't seen before that would make your book worth more than most of the others I've seen"? Or did you say: "You are a price gouger and a thief who preys on the ignorant and unwary. Why are you charging so much?"? Again, I'm ignoring whatever reputation the seller has already acquired. Just talking in general. One possibility is that the seller doesn't even own the book. That happened to me not too long ago. I sold one to another seller who asked me to drop ship the book. When I looked at his web site, he had copied my description lock, stock, and barrel and upped my price by a third. If I had to guess, I'd guess that that's what's really happening with your seattle_bookseller. He finds books worth a few hundred dollars, prices his copy a bit below the top, and plans on buying one of the lower priced books if he has to fulfill the order. What could be better? Somebody else buys and stocks the book, and it doesn't cost him a cent until he gets the order. Again, just speculation, but that's my first guess. All that said, basically used books are worth exactly what some one will pay for them. The internet has been a great leveler as far as pricing, because most people, even with a simple Google search, can do exactly what you did and get the range of prices available. In the "old days", books moved much differently. Sellers had shops, and priced for their geographic areas and their specialty. A book that was priced at $12 in one shop could bring $50 or $200 when moved to a dealer who had the right clients for it. Sales from dealer to dealer were a much bigger part of the trade. It was understood that part of the value a dealer added to a book was his knowledge of the collecting area and years of cultivating the kind of customers who would want that kind of book. So...your seller may indeed be a sleaze-bag. I would certainly never buy from him based on the unprofessional response he made to you. But if he's got the book and he wants to list it at $400+ when most copies are in the $200-range, so what? Maybe his policy is to never revise a listing, and he's just waiting for the market to catch up with him! You don't have to buy the book, and he doesn't have to justify his price to you, unless he's got a really good story that truly makes the book worth what he's charging. Not that I think it's necessarily right for a dealer to charge any price at all. I've seen some things that would simply embarrass me to be involved with. There was an auction on eBay two weeks ago where a seller paired two common $25 books, hyped the illustrator and sold the pair for over $200. And a copycat did the same thing with the same titles and netted over $100. Again, nobody made any of the customers bid on the auctions, and the books were started at a very reasonable price, but seeing the final values, I just cringed. I would hate to be either of those sellers when their customers found out they could have gotten the same books for a quarter or half the price on amazon. And that, my friend, is why serious collectors often support specific sellers over a period of years, even if it means they pay a small premium in the pricing over what the same titles in the same condition would bring in other venues. They do it because they know they can trust the seller to accurately describe the books, to stand behind their products, and to price fairly, even if not at the cheapest price. Alice -- Book collecting terms illustrated. Occasional books for sale. http://www.mywingsbooks.com/ |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 10, 8:40 am, "my-wings" wrote:
"Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)" wrote in ooglegroups.com... And that, my friend, is why serious collectors often support specific sellers over a period of years, even if it means they pay a small premium in the pricing over what the same titles in the same condition would bring in other venues. They do it because they know they can trust the seller to accurately describe the books, to stand behind their products, and to price fairly, even if not at the cheapest price. Thanks for your comments! Especially when buying rare stuff, having an honest dealer is critical. The feedback for "seattle_bookseller" on Amazon, at http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/seller...=AM0TBPF72AOXR seems to support the notion that this business is best avoided. Negative feedback is 8% in just the last month, and there have been complaints about the condition of books being seriously misrepresented (this was the issue that caused the fracas with this person last time), non-delivery, delivery of less than was purchased (e.g. one volume out of ten, ten out of twelve, etc.) |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
"Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)" wrote in
message oups.com... Based on the listings on Bookfinder, I'd estimate the value of this book at $225 to $250, certainly nowhere close to $430. You may have a mistaken apprehension of the retail market for genuinely rare books. In comparison with other goods (e.g. computers, e.g. mass-produced new books) vendors cannot set prices in order to undercut the competition (because these items are so scarce that price competition seldom works.) By contrast, haggling (bargaining) over price may be as common as in some other markets (e.g. automobiles.) We still do not know why you did not buy a couple of copies at $250 and offer to sell them to this dealer at $350. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 10, 10:46 am, "Don Phillipson"
wrote: We still do not know why you did not buy a couple of copies at $250 and offer to sell them to this dealer at $350. For starts, because he's abusive in response to straightforward questions; secondly, because (based on his Amazon rating, and on complaints about his previous incarnation as "texas_bookseller") he appears to be dishonest. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 10, 7:18 am, "Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)"
wrote: I own a pristine copy of a volume titled "The Picatrix", published by Ourobouros Press in 2001 in a limited edition of 1000 copies (mine is #331). I'm doing an appraisal of the current value of this book, so I searched Bookfinder to see what was listed there. There are several copies listed, ranging in price from a low of $204 to a high of over $500 (the latter from a Seattle brick and mortar store for a copy with a scuff on the cover!) One of the outliers, pricing a copy at $430, was an outfit called "seattle_bookseller". I wrote and asked why the price was so high, and got an amazingly vituperative and abusive response, stating that this "WAS HOW THE RARE BOOK BUSINESS WORKED" and that I "NEED A COURSE IN REMEDIAL ECONOMICS" and so on. Well, he sounds like a grouch. Smart dealers have a civil and positive-sounding reply for any question. He should have told you what a wonderful deal he was offering. Maybe there is some satisfaction in saying "That's my price, like it or lump it," but all that does is ensure that customers don't come back. Some dealers have that small shopkeeper mentality where they think it is more important to put customers in their place with thngs like, "It is my shop and I'll do as I please blah blah blah," while to better business people the trick is to keep people happy and keep them coming back. That does not mean letting people walk on you, but it means explaining things in a positive way when at all possible. There is dealer in my area who got exercised because I simply ask him if a paperback was new or used. His store is basically a used bookstore, so it looked to me like he was pricing "used like-new" p.b.'s at cover price, and I simply asked him if a paperback was new or used. (I am not referring to rare, out-of-print p.b.'s, but just trade- sized p.b.'s that many used book dealers around here price at fifty-percent of cover.) It just so happens thatthis dealer does not like that question, probably because he hears it all the time. He insisted that the book was brand new, not used. Actually, I believe the guy, because there other things about his business which suggests he is a person of some integrity. He is just an oddball type who does order new books and mixes them in with his used books, which most used-book dealers do not do. Even so, I suspect he has driven off a lot of customers by getting hot under the collar regarding a very sensible question. All things considered, he has one of the better used bookstores in the San Diego area, so I still patronize the guy, but you have to walk on eggshells in his shop because he will fly off the handle if you ask the wrong question. [Memo from the upstairs office.] I was a little surprised at this, but a little research turned up the even more surprising information that this seller is one "Luis M. Arsupial", the same person who was doing business (kinda) as "texas_bookseller" up until about six months ago, and who previously created a huge stink in this group over some questionable transactions! This kind of pricing seems like nothing more than gouging to me. I could buy two copies of this book for what this yoyo is asking for it. I can only assume that he's doing business on a basis of relying on his customers being ignorant and not doing their research. Based on the listings on Bookfinder, I'd estimate the value of this book at $225 to $250, certainly nowhere close to $430. Is this a usual practice? Do a lot of booksellers price their wares in the hopes that their buyers will be too stupid to know that they're being asked to pay twice what a book is worth? You can't blame dealers for trying to get what the traffic will bear. In no way is that "price gouging." On the other hand, many listings show that dealers like to use "fantasy pricing." That is, when someone has the only copy of a book of obviously some value for sale on the entire internet, and he prices it at $400, that may be very sensible. On the other hand, if he prices his book at $400 and four other equally reputable dealers are offering what looks like an identical copy at prices between $30 and $50, then the first dealer is not price gouging, he is dreaming. Or, since you assume he is trying to sell his book, you might say he is "pricing stupid." But, I completely agree with the other posters who say that "price gouging" is not a correct term to use regarding the pricing of rare collectibles. [Memo from the upstairs office.} (Apparently this "Luis M. Arsupial"--"marsupial"...?--was once known as "Jason Christopher Hughes", a name which turns up a wide variety of odd and amazing postings on USENET...) |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 10, 10:46 am, "Don Phillipson"
wrote: "Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)" wrote in ooglegroups.com... Based on the listings on Bookfinder, I'd estimate the value of this book at $225 to $250, certainly nowhere close to $430. You may have a mistaken apprehension of the retail market for genuinely rare books. Absolutely true. When you are talking about a rare collectible, the term "price gouging" is inappropriate. On the other hand, good business people develop a sense of what the traffic will bear -- not so good ones price more in accordance with their fantasies regarding what they think they can get. In comparison with other goods (e.g. computers, e.g. mass-produced new books) vendors cannot set prices in order to undercut the competition (because these items are so scarce that price competition seldom works.) By contrast, haggling (bargaining) over price may be as common as in some other markets (e.g. automobiles.) We still do not know why you did not buy a couple of copies at $250 and offer to sell them to this dealer at $350. Why waste time doing that? Assuming he is like many other dealers, he probably paid no more than $20 bucks for that book in the first place. [Memo from the upstairs office.] -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 16, 1:07 pm, wrote:
There is dealer in my area who got exercised because I simply ask him if a paperback was new or used. Geez palmjob, after going on at length in about a million posts about how smart and knowledgable you are, one would think you'd be able to tell the difference between a new and a used paperback! I guess it's true that self-abuse does diminish one's eyesight! |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 18, 1:54 pm, "RWF" wrote:
On Feb 16, 1:07 pm, wrote: There is dealer in my area who got exercised because I simply ask him if a paperback was new or used. Geez palmjob, after going on at length in about a million posts about how smart and knowledgable you are, one would think you'd be able to tell the difference between a new and a used paperback! I guess it's true that self-abuse does diminish one's eyesight! You are full of beans, as always. It is often absolutely impossible to tell whether a book is new or "used, like new." Yes, sometimes books do have that "never been opened" look and feel. On the other hand, a great many books have been opened, browsed, thumbed-through, etc., right in new bookstores. Or, are you going to invent a rule that states that a book which has sat on a bookstore's shelves for a while cannot be called new? Of course, the custom of trade in the book business does not adhere to any such ridiculous rule, as you well know. When a book has been owned by a careful reader, it is often impossible to say from looking at it whether it is new or "used, like-new." Yes, you can often tell if a book has been opened, but you have no way of determining whether it has been opened by someone glancing through it in a bookstore or has been opened by a careful reader. So, in your pathetic attempte at humor, your are blaming me for not knowing things that no one else could possibly know either. You're really sort of dumb, aren't you? A veritable dim bulb! 'Fess up, now... [Memo from the upstairs office.] |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 20, 4:11 am, wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:54 pm, "RWF" wrote: On Feb 16, 1:07 pm, wrote: There is dealer in my area who got exercised because I simply ask him if a paperback was new or used. Geez palmjob, after going on at length in about a million posts about how smart and knowledgable you are, one would think you'd be able to tell the difference between a new and a used paperback! I guess it's true that self-abuse does diminish one's eyesight! You are full of beans, as always. It is often absolutely impossible to tell whether a book is new or "used, like new." Yes, sometimes books do have that "never been opened" look and feel. On the other hand, a great many books have been opened, browsed, thumbed-through, etc., right in new bookstores. Or, are you going to invent a rule that states that a book which has sat on a bookstore's shelves for a while cannot be called new? Of course, the custom of trade in the book business does not adhere to any such ridiculous rule, as you well know. When a book has been owned by a careful reader, it is often impossible to say from looking at it whether it is new or "used, like-new." Yes, you can often tell if a book has been opened, but you have no way of determining whether it has been opened by someone glancing through it in a bookstore or has been opened by a careful reader. So, in your pathetic attempte at humor, your are blaming me for not knowing things that no one else could possibly know either. You're really sort of dumb, aren't you? A veritable dim bulb! 'Fess up, now... [Memo from the upstairs office.] Good old balmy palmy, just making stuff up as you go along, as usual. Palmjob, you cretin, I know you are a reclusive, anti-social old fart- sniffer but even a moron like you should have enough knowledge of human nature to know that if the book looked like it was new, the dealer would charge you for a new book, not a used one. You're really sort of dumb, aren't you? A veritable dim bulb! 'Fess up, now... |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 20, 4:44 am, "RWF" wrote:
On Feb 20, 4:11 am, wrote: On Feb 18, 1:54 pm, "RWF" wrote: On Feb 16, 1:07 pm, wrote: There is dealer in my area who got exercised because I simply ask him if a paperback was new or used. Geez palmjob, after going on at length in about a million posts about how smart and knowledgable you are, one would think you'd be able to tell the difference between a new and a used paperback! I guess it's true that self-abuse does diminish one's eyesight! You are full of beans, as always. It is often absolutely impossible to tell whether a book is new or "used, like new." Yes, sometimes books do have that "never been opened" look and feel. On the other hand, a great many books have been opened, browsed, thumbed-through, etc., right in new bookstores. Or, are you going to invent a rule that states that a book which has sat on a bookstore's shelves for a while cannot be called new? Of course, the custom of trade in the book business does not adhere to any such ridiculous rule, as you well know. When a book has been owned by a careful reader, it is often impossible to say from looking at it whether it is new or "used, like-new." Yes, you can often tell if a book has been opened, but you have no way of determining whether it has been opened by someone glancing through it in a bookstore or has been opened by a careful reader. So, in your pathetic attempte at humor, your are blaming me for not knowing things that no one else could possibly know either. You're really sort of dumb, aren't you? A veritable dim bulb! 'Fess up, now... [Memo from the upstairs office.] Good old balmy palmy, just making stuff up as you go along, as usual. Palmjob, you cretin, I know you are a reclusive, anti-social old fart- sniffer but even a moron like you should have enough knowledge of human nature to know that if the book looked like it was new, the dealer would charge you for a new book, not a used one. You're really sort of dumb, aren't you? A veritable dim bulb! 'Fess up, now...- Hide quoted text - How typical of a low-wattage bulb like you to hurl scatological insults when cornered by your own feeble arguments. No, as a matter of fact the best used book dearlers do NOT charge cover price for a paperback simply because it looks like new. They have found from experience that their customers favor a consistent pricing policy. One of the more successful used book dealers in this area has a consistent "one-half cover price" policy for all paperbacks, with the exception of those older ones having a cover price of $4 or less, for which they charge a flat $2, whether the original cover was $4 or $2.95 or whatever. (And also they do charge more, of course, for vintage collectible p.b.s). But as for a brand new looking trade paperback -- fiction or non-fiction -- or a mass market paperback, they charge a standard 50 percent of the cover price. Since the customers know they are a used bookstore they would certainly lose business if they started charging higher rates for paperbacks simply because the paperbacks looked brand new. Now, if someone as stupid as you took over the store, he would suddenly start charging cover price for every paperback which looked new, and he would simply drive people away. Sort of like "Yes, we have thousands of used paperbacks priced at one-half cover price, but, as you can see, dear customer, THAT paperback looks BRAND NEW so we are going to have to charge you full cover price." You sound like someone who has been buying your paperbacks in big city schlock shops where they would actually run a business in such a shabby fashion! But, then, you have already been revealed to our readers as a -- putting the matter as charitably as possible -- low-wattage type... Cheers. [Memo from the upstairs office.] - Show quoted text - |
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Scot Kamins wrote:
In article .com, wrote: On Feb 20, 4:44 am, "RWF" wrote: nonsense On Feb 20, 4:11 am, wrote: trollbait I REALLY wish you two would take your love letters off line. When you each speak of books -- and ONLY books -- I find that you have something to say and I usually learn from it. But this silly back-and-forth crap was old years ago. Please leave it behind. Ignore each other if you must, but please get back to books. Amen. -- Evelyn C. Leeper Junk is something you keep for years, then throw away two weeks before you need it. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 20, 1:42 pm, wrote:
No, as a matter of fact the best used book dearlers do NOT charge cover price for a paperback simply because it looks like new. Palmjob, you drooling imbecile, the whole point of your post was that the dealer in question was not ranked among "the best used book dearlers". You really should pay attention. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 20, 2:41 pm, "RWF" wrote:
On Feb 20, 1:42 pm, wrote: No, as a matter of fact the best used book dearlers do NOT charge cover price for a paperback simply because it looks like new. Palmjob, you drooling imbecile, the whole point of your post was that the dealer in question was not ranked among "the best used book dearlers". You really should pay attention. Stop trying to wriggle out of the embarrassing consequences of your assault on our reader's intelligence. Anyone reading my posts on this thread can see I have referred to two different dealers. And, as a matter of fact, both have their good points. The first I referred to was the oddball who orders new paperbacks from distributors and mixes them in with his used books. That's fine, if he wants to do that, but he should expect that customers will regularly ask him if a paperback is new, or "used, like new." Of course, if it is the latter, and the paperback is not out-of-print, customers will not expect to pay new book prices. The other used book dealer I referred to was the once who charges a flat 50 percent of cover for paperbacks. That was where you started blathering some nonsense to the effect that he was foolish for charging only half price for a paperback which looked new. You proved you were too dim to grasp the fact that a consistent pricing policy regarding used paperbacks (whether they look brand new or not) serves him better than a policy of grsping for cover price simply because a used paperback looks new. Say, you ARE incredibly dim-witted aren't you? I realized from glancing through some of your previous posts posts that you were no Einstein, to say the least. but now that you have been making a fool of yourself over and over on this thread with your feeble arguments and puerile name-calling fits, it has become plain that you are a certifiable dullard. Have a WONDERFUL day. [Memo from the upstairs office.] |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 20, 7:17 pm, wrote:
I realized from glancing through some of your previous posts posts that you were no Einstein, to say the least. but now that you have been making a fool of yourself over and over on this thread with your feeble arguments and puerile name-calling fits, it has become plain that you are a certifiable dullard. Have a WONDERFUL day. There goes balmy palmy talking about himself again! Self abuse is indeed a cruel master, eh palmjob? |
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This post is a complete canard and an thinly veiled personal attack.
It appears to be part of a stalking/harassment campaign that has nothing to do with my person or business. Though I take is as actionable slander. I have never communicated with this individual in any way, shape or form. I challenge to him to produce any evidence of his ridiculous claims, (with headers) from my paid yahoo account, . He can't - as what he claims I have said simply never happened. I have never emailed, mailed or phoned this person. He is lying to you. He has never been a customer of mine, nor have I made any such comments. I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. I have 99.6% + feedback lifetime on ebay with the same customer service and policies. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed genuinely brand new, as I purchased them directly from the publisher. Here is real feedback from Seattle_Bookseller: Comment From Date / Time Item # Positive feedback rating Books are great and delivery was fast!!! 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Buyer granmom55( 33Feedback score is 10 to 49) Feb-27-07 15:43 290084427195 Positive feedback rating Very fast delivery, Item well packaged, Will buy from again, Thankyou. Buyer mlmanier( 523Feedback score is 500 to 999) Feb-27-07 11:24 300040461855 Positive feedback rating A1, Highest Recommendation of Seller, Great Book, Fast Shipping. Thanks Buyer skullcottage( 2321Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-27-07 11:17 300040567801 Positive feedback rating Item Received, packed well thanks Buyer vvjw( 167Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-27-07 10:20 290074598216 Positive feedback rating Book as described, packed well, pleased with transaction. Buyer jspiritw( 38Feedback score is 10 to 49) Feb-27-07 07:47 290063749756 Positive feedback rating Good seller! Nice Sheet Music! Thanks so much! Buyer palmtreelady2( 207Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-27-07 03:32 300040507192 Positive feedback rating Nice item Thanks Buyer shootingstar8610( 2 ) New eBay Member (less than 30 days) Feb-26-07 23:08 290076789328 Positive feedback rating EXCELLENT merchandise, fast fast fast response, super ebayer !!! Rating: AAA+ Buyer muckett16( 227Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-26-07 16:45 340160069529 Positive feedback rating Thank you! Excellent service! Buyer corkyoddler( 22Feedback score is 10 to 49) Changed User ID (less than 30 days) Feb-26-07 15:33 290081857060 Positive feedback rating pleasure to do business AAA+++Outstanding E-Bayer Buyer galaxyzerozerozero( 1550Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-25-07 14:35 290079967510 Positive feedback rating good service Buyer josierippey47( 107Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-25-07 14:23 300049502672 Positive feedback rating Perfect transaction - Everything is as expected - Recommended - Thanks! Feedback Sco 502 Positive Feedback: 99.6% Members who left a positive: 504 Members who left a negative: 2 All positive feedback received: 570 5 out of 5: "the book came much faster than promised" Date: 3/1/2007 Rated by Buyer: dmau1668 5 out of 5: "Love the book, as described, super fast shipping too, thanks!" Date: 3/1/2007 Rated by Buyer: blahblahblah2005 5 out of 5: "great seller, fast shipping" Date: 2/28/2007 Rated by Buyer: ieputranto 4 out of 5: "Book was a little worse for ware then stated, but not bad." Date: 2/28/2007 Rated by Buyer: Christopher A. 5 out of 5: "book arrived as described, on time" Date: 2/28/2007 Rated by Buyer: combsie 5 out of 5: "Service was great" Date: 2/28/2007 Rated by Buyer: Yesica N. 5 out of 5: "I found it astonoshing the speed of delivery, I mean i contacted you in USA on Tuesday and I recieved the book in the west of ruaral Ireland on Thursday , a little over 2 days , Local post here may take a week. Thank you." Date: 2/27/2007 Rated by Buyer: MICHAEL L. 5 out of 5: "Swift and in good condition" Date: 2/27/2007 Rated by Buyer: Aimee Z. 5 out of 5: "great goods,,,,,nice" Date: 2/26/2007 Rated by Buyer: jeffery w. 4 out of 5: "the book was in good condition however I shipping took longer than expected - with an expedited purchase." Date: 2/26/2007 Rated by Buyer: Erica G. 5 out of 5: "arrived in perfect condition" Date: 2/25/2007 Rated by Buyer: lboyle37 5 out of 5: "Great working with this company!" Date: 2/25/2007 Rated by Buyer: Amber S. 5 out of 5: "Very efficient service!" Date: 2/25/2007 Rated by Buyer: Bradford D. 5 out of 5: "Arrived before the delivery estimate in good shape!" Date: 2/25/2007 Rated by Buyer: magnusretail 5 out of 5: "no problems" Date: 2/24/2007 Rated by Buyer: 5 out of 5: "Shipped quickly and accurately." Date: 2/24/2007 Rated by Buyer: rdavidgross 5 out of 5: "The book came very fast and was in great condition for the price!" Date: 2/24/2007 Rated by Buyer: Silas C. - Amy, Seattle_Bookseller |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 10, 9:43 am, "Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)"
wrote: On Feb 10, 8:40 am, "my-wings" wrote: "Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)" wrote in ooglegroups.com... And that, my friend, is why serious collectors often support specific sellers over a period of years, even if it means they pay a small premium in the pricing over what the same titles in the same condition would bring in other venues. They do it because they know they can trust the seller to accurately describe the books, to stand behind their products, and to price fairly, even if not at the cheapest price. Thanks for your comments! Especially when buying rare stuff, having an honest dealer is critical. The feedback for "seattle_bookseller" on Amazon, at http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/seller...980-6174318?ie... seems to support the notion that this business is best avoided. Negative feedback is 8% in just the last month, and there have been complaints about the condition of books being seriously misrepresented (this was the issue that caused the fracas with this person last time), non-delivery, delivery of less than was purchased (e.g. one volume out of ten, ten out of twelve, etc.) The thinly veiled attempt to slander and harm my business that started this thread is the work of one David Shlesinger, a stalker and nutjob from Santa Cruz, CA and a fired employee of Palmsource, Inc. Seattle_Bookseller never contacted him in any form - not by email, phone, post etc. He is lying. He consistently mistakes other people for his nemesis, this "Jason Christopher Hughes" aka "Marsupial". I would like to see him reproduce any kind of email from my business, with headers from yahoo - which is the yahoo account I pay for, . This communication does not exist. It appears that the comments he references came from anonymous posts on some blog. My amazon.com feedback is 94% + for 365 days. This is the equal of or better than most of the large retailers on amazon.com. My ebay feedback for the same customer base and same policies is 99.6% positive. I do not live in or operate out of Texas. You are being misled by a deranged and vicious con artist with a most definite ax to grind that has nothing at all to do with books. And it has nothing to do with myself, or Seattle_Bookseller. This thread is a slime job, and it is part of an on going harassment/stalking attempt on the part of Mr. Schlesinger. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed truly brand new as I got them directly from the publisher. They have not so much as been opened! Schlesinger never, ever bought anything from me. He has no right to come and slander my business. Would you like to see how incredibly childish, vile and mentally unbalanced the 59 year old David Schelsinger is? Here is one of his stalking websites, in all its puerile glory: http://www.shugendo.org/marsupial/index.htm Schlesinger maintains several of these sites, for the many people he is criminally harassing. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. I have 99.6% +
feedback lifetime on ebay with the same customer service and policies. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed genuinely brand new, as I purchased them directly from the publisher. Here is real feedback from Seattle_Bookseller: Comment From Date / Time Item # Positive feedback rating Books are great and delivery was fast!!! Buyer l10driver( 182Feedback score is 100 to 499) Mar-02-07 03:05 300040463308 Positive feedback rating Excellent! (grandson is Very pleased) Buyer matthewdeming( 1058Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Mar-01-07 22:30 300040607752 Positive feedback rating thanks for the book Buyer 55whitewolf( 33Feedback score is 10 to 49) Mar-01-07 15:02 300040587361 Positive feedback rating everything fine, thanks!!! Buyer timothy-22( 470Feedback score is 100 to 499) Mar-01-07 09:43 300040451953 Positive feedback rating everything fine, thanks!!! Buyer timothy-22( 470Feedback score is 100 to 499) Mar-01-07 09:42 290063148009 Positive feedback rating Alles bestens, prima Ware, netter Kontakt. Meine Empfehlung! Buyer jerrelito( 1376Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Mar-01-07 07:43 300040599309 Positive feedback rating Excellent buy, A+++ Buyer rrsant3( 28Feedback score is 10 to 49) Feb-28-07 23:54 290078199742 Positive feedback rating Very pleased with item and transaction! Buyer khsbrahma( 1311Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-28-07 15:22 300040604778 Positive feedback rating Great Product price and service. Thanks! Buyer steve74( 1006Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-28-07 11:50 290067625510 Positive feedback rating thanks. might have recieved it.... ordered too many to remember Buyer kajzoo211( 9 ) New eBay Member (less than 30 days) Feb-28-07 10:45 300040506133 Positive feedback rating great seller, fast!!!!!! Buyer hardwaycooke( 708Feedback score is 500 to 999) Feb-28-07 05:56 300060526942 Positive feedback rating perfect deal Buyer buynowordie( 199Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-27-07 15:56 290081129265 Positive feedback rating Received very fast. thanks. better than expected. Buyer granmom55( 33Feedback score is 10 to 49) Feb-27-07 15:43 290084427194 Positive feedback rating Received very fast. thanks. Better than expeacted. Buyer granmom55( 33Feedback score is 10 to 49) Feb-27-07 15:43 290084427195 Positive feedback rating Very fast delivery, Item well packaged, Will buy from again, Thankyou. Buyer mlmanier( 523Feedback score is 500 to 999) Feb-27-07 11:24 300040461855 Positive feedback rating A1, Highest Recommendation of Seller, Great Book, Fast Shipping. Thanks Buyer skullcottage( 2321Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-27-07 11:17 300040567801 Positive feedback rating Item Received, packed well thanks Buyer vvjw( 167Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-27-07 10:20 290074598216 Positive feedback rating Book as described, packed well, pleased with transaction. Buyer jspiritw( 38Feedback score is 10 to 49) Feb-27-07 07:47 290063749756 Positive feedback rating Good seller! Nice Sheet Music! Thanks so much! Buyer palmtreelady2( 207Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-27-07 03:32 300040507192 Positive feedback rating Nice item Thanks Buyer shootingstar8610( 2 ) New eBay Member (less than 30 days) Feb-26-07 23:08 290076789328 Positive feedback rating EXCELLENT merchandise, fast fast fast response, super ebayer !!! Rating: AAA+ Buyer muckett16( 227Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-26-07 16:45 340160069529 Positive feedback rating Thank you! Excellent service! Buyer corkyoddler( 22Feedback score is 10 to 49) Changed User ID (less than 30 days) Feb-26-07 15:33 290081857060 Positive feedback rating pleasure to do business AAA+++Outstanding E-Bayer Buyer galaxyzerozerozero( 1550Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-25-07 14:35 290079967510 Positive feedback rating good service Buyer josierippey47( 107Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-25-07 14:23 300049502672 Positive feedback rating Perfect transaction - Everything is as expected - Recommended - Thanks! Feedback Sco 502 Positive Feedback: 99.6% Members who left a positive: 504 Members who left a negative: 2 All positive feedback received: 570 5 out of 5: "the book came much faster than promised" Date: 3/1/2007 Rated by Buyer: dmau1668 5 out of 5: "Love the book, as described, super fast shipping too, thanks!" Date: 3/1/2007 Rated by Buyer: blahblahblah2005 5 out of 5: "great seller, fast shipping" Date: 2/28/2007 Rated by Buyer: ieputranto 4 out of 5: "Book was a little worse for ware then stated, but not bad." Date: 2/28/2007 Rated by Buyer: Christopher A. 5 out of 5: "book arrived as described, on time" Date: 2/28/2007 Rated by Buyer: combsie 5 out of 5: "Service was great" Date: 2/28/2007 Rated by Buyer: Yesica N. 5 out of 5: "I found it astonoshing the speed of delivery, I mean i contacted you in USA on Tuesday and I recieved the book in the west of ruaral Ireland on Thursday , a little over 2 days , Local post here may take a week. Thank you." Date: 2/27/2007 Rated by Buyer: MICHAEL L. 5 out of 5: "Swift and in good condition" Date: 2/27/2007 Rated by Buyer: Aimee Z. 5 out of 5: "great goods,,,,,nice" Date: 2/26/2007 Rated by Buyer: jeffery w. 4 out of 5: "the book was in good condition however I shipping took longer than expected - with an expedited purchase." Date: 2/26/2007 Rated by Buyer: Erica G. 5 out of 5: "arrived in perfect condition" Date: 2/25/2007 Rated by Buyer: lboyle37 5 out of 5: "Great working with this company!" Date: 2/25/2007 Rated by Buyer: Amber S. 5 out of 5: "Very efficient service!" Date: 2/25/2007 Rated by Buyer: Bradford D. 5 out of 5: "Arrived before the delivery estimate in good shape!" Date: 2/25/2007 Rated by Buyer: magnusretail 5 out of 5: "no problems" Date: 2/24/2007 Rated by Buyer: 5 out of 5: "Shipped quickly and accurately." Date: 2/24/2007 Rated by Buyer: rdavidgross 5 out of 5: "The book came very fast and was in great condition for the price!" Date: 2/24/2007 Rated by Buyer: Silas C. - Amy, Seattle_Bookseller |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 10:45 am, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: this thread is the work of one David Shlesinger, a stalker and nutjob from Santa Cruz, CA and a fired employee of Palmsource, Inc. Palmsource, eh? I knew palmjob had to come from somewhere! |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 10:47 am, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. Wouldn't that mean that 6 people out of 100 were so disatisfied with your service that they left a negative comment? FWIW 94%-96% is the cutoff point I use when determining if I'll buy from an Amazon seller, so you are right on the cusp. A seller with a lower rating than that might get my business if he prices his item extraordinarily low but usually I'll pay a few bucks more to buy from a seller with a high feedback %. I'm not saying anything about you as a seller other than that 94% is nothing to brag about. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 8:47 am, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. I have 99.6% + feedback lifetime on ebay with the same customer service and policies. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed genuinely brand new, as I purchased them directly from the publisher. Here is real feedback from Seattle_Bookseller: What does feedback FROM Seattle_Bookseller prove? That you compliment your buyers? |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 9:08 am, wrote:
On Mar 2, 8:47 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. I have 99.6% + feedback lifetime on ebay with the same customer service and policies. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed genuinely brand new, as I purchased them directly from the publisher. Here is real feedback from Seattle_Bookseller: What does feedback FROM Seattle_Bookseller prove? That you compliment your buyers? The feedback I cut and pasted is posted in public and was left BY MY CUSTOMERS FOR ME. You are incorrect in your statements. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 8:49 am, "RWF" wrote:
On Mar 2, 10:47 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. Wouldn't that mean that 6 people out of 100 were so disatisfied with your service that they left a negative comment? FWIW 94%-96% is the cutoff point I use when determining if I'll buy from an Amazon seller, so you are right on the cusp. A seller with a lower rating than that might get my business if he prices his item extraordinarily low but usually I'll pay a few bucks more to buy from a seller with a high feedback %. I'm not saying anything about you as a seller other than that 94% is nothing to brag about. No, it doesn't mean that as 3% it is 'neutral' feedback, which amazon counts against a seller. Amazon does not encourage mutual feedback, so it is much harder to maintain the 99.6% I have on Ebay on amazon. This is a problem amazon.com dealers discuss endlessly. Have you ever had a customer slime your feedback because he didn't like the ending of a book, or the USPS misrouted the shipment? I certainly have. Almost all my negative feedback is caused by the USPS screwing deliveries up. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 1:38 pm, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: No, it doesn't mean that as 3% it is 'neutral' feedback, which amazon counts against a seller. Amazon does not encourage mutual feedback, Nor should it. eBay discourages forthrightness in its feedback, due to the fear of getting "revenge" feedback. Have you ever had a customer slime your feedback because he didn't like the ending of a book, or the USPS misrouted the shipment? I certainly have. Almost all my negative feedback is caused by the USPS screwing deliveries up. After reading your comments here, I probably would not buy from you. Blaming the Post Office is a pretty lame excuse, ranking up the with the homework-eating dog. Even if the P.O. did lose a book (which has happened to me exactly once in well over 1000 shipments over the years), as an Amazon seller you are still responsible. Granted there are unreasonable buyers who will never be satisfied. But if I ordered a book from you via Amazon and never rec'd it or a refund you can be sure that you would get negative feedback from me. I know that Amazon doesn't share all the shipping charge with you but you should factor shipping and insurance into the price of your merchandise. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 10:50 am, "Bob F." wrote:
On Mar 2, 1:38 pm, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: No, it doesn't mean that as 3% it is 'neutral' feedback, which amazon counts against a seller. Amazon does not encourage mutual feedback, Nor should it. eBay discourages forthrightness in its feedback, due to the fear of getting "revenge" feedback. Have you ever had a customer slime your feedback because he didn't like the ending of a book, or the USPS misrouted the shipment? I certainly have. Almost all my negative feedback is caused by the USPS screwing deliveries up. After reading your comments here, I probably would not buy from you. Blaming the Post Office is a pretty lame excuse, ranking up the with the homework-eating dog. Even if the P.O. did lose a book (which has happened to me exactly once in well over 1000 shipments over the years), as an Amazon seller you are still responsible. Granted there are unreasonable buyers who will never be satisfied. But if I ordered a book from you via Amazon and never rec'd it or a refund you can be sure that you would get negative feedback from me. I know that Amazon doesn't share all the shipping charge with you but you should factor shipping and insurance into the price of your merchandise. I always refund completely in these cases. You are accusing me with no knowledge of the reality of the situation. And its not lost USPS packages we are talking about, its SLOW ONES for the most part. I ship around 1000 books per month, every month. USPS media mail was horrible this holiday season, as you should be aware of. Powell's Books, one of the largest brick and mortar (and online) retailers has the same Amazon rating I do, 94%+. Again, I have 99.6%+ on ebay. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 11:00 am, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: On Mar 2, 10:50 am, "Bob F." wrote: On Mar 2, 1:38 pm, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: No, it doesn't mean that as 3% it is 'neutral' feedback, which amazon counts against a seller. Amazon does not encourage mutual feedback, Nor should it. eBay discourages forthrightness in its feedback, due to the fear of getting "revenge" feedback. Have you ever had a customer slime your feedback because he didn't like the ending of a book, or the USPS misrouted the shipment? I certainly have. Almost all my negative feedback is caused by the USPS screwing deliveries up. After reading your comments here, I probably would not buy from you. Blaming the Post Office is a pretty lame excuse, ranking up the with the homework-eating dog. Even if the P.O. did lose a book (which has happened to me exactly once in well over 1000 shipments over the years), as an Amazon seller you are still responsible. Granted there are unreasonable buyers who will never be satisfied. But if I ordered a book from you via Amazon and never rec'd it or a refund you can be sure that you would get negative feedback from me. I know that Amazon doesn't share all the shipping charge with you but you should factor shipping and insurance into the price of your merchandise. I always refund completely in these cases. You are accusing me with no knowledge of the reality of the situation. And its not lost USPS packages we are talking about, its SLOW ONES for the most part. I ship around 1000 books per month, every month. USPS media mail was horrible this holiday season, as you should be aware of. Powell's Books, one of the largest brick and mortar (and online) retailers has the same Amazon rating I do, 94%+. Again, I have 99.6%+ on ebay. The USPS loses 10-12 of every 1,000 packages I ship. I buy my insurance through Endicia, thank you very much. Some of these are undoubtedly customers attempting to get a free book, but I only use delivery confirmation on items worth more than 10$. I do not agree with your comments about ebay, and you are in the extreme minority opinion on that matter with most online book sellers. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 11:34 am, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: On Mar 2, 9:08 am, wrote: On Mar 2, 8:47 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. I have 99.6% + feedback lifetime on ebay with the same customer service and policies. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed genuinely brand new, as I purchased them directly from the publisher. Here is real feedback from Seattle_Bookseller: What does feedback FROM Seattle_Bookseller prove? That you compliment your buyers? The feedback I cut and pasted is posted in public and was left BY MY CUSTOMERS FOR ME. You are incorrect in your statements. That incorrect statement was yours, and I quoted it back to you. Perhaps proofreading your posts would help get your point across, and improve your business practices? Inattention to detail is not a desirable trait in a bookseller. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 11:37 am, wrote:
On Mar 2, 11:34 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: On Mar 2, 9:08 am, wrote: On Mar 2, 8:47 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. I have 99.6% + feedback lifetime on ebay with the same customer service and policies. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed genuinely brand new, as I purchased them directly from the publisher. Here is real feedback from Seattle_Bookseller: What does feedback FROM Seattle_Bookseller prove? That you compliment your buyers? The feedback I cut and pasted is posted in public and was left BY MY CUSTOMERS FOR ME. You are incorrect in your statements. That incorrect statement was yours, and I quoted it back to you. Perhaps proofreading your posts would help get your point across, and improve your business practices? Inattention to detail is not a desirable trait in a bookseller. I don't feed trolls. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 2:27 pm, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: The USPS loses 10-12 of every 1,000 packages I ship. Bull****! I buy my insurance through Endicia, thank you very much. You're welcome very much! Some of these are undoubtedly customers attempting to get a free book, but I only use delivery confirmation on items worth more than 10$. Yep, that's it, all those big bad customers are trying to rip you off. If you're so worried, charge a bit more for your books and get delivery confirmation. Oh that's right, then you wouldn't be able to blame others for your deficiencies. I do not agree with your comments about ebay, I do not care what a turd like you thinks. and you are in the extreme minority opinion on that matter with most online book sellers. Based on your extensive research, right? Now I know why you get so much negative feedback - you're an asshole! |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 12:39 pm, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: On Mar 2, 11:37 am, wrote: On Mar 2, 11:34 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: On Mar 2, 9:08 am, wrote: On Mar 2, 8:47 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. I have 99.6% + feedback lifetime on ebay with the same customer service and policies. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed genuinely brand new, as I purchased them directly from the publisher. Here is real feedback from Seattle_Bookseller: What does feedback FROM Seattle_Bookseller prove? That you compliment your buyers? The feedback I cut and pasted is posted in public and was left BY MY CUSTOMERS FOR ME. You are incorrect in your statements. That incorrect statement was yours, and I quoted it back to you. Perhaps proofreading your posts would help get your point across, and improve your business practices? Inattention to detail is not a desirable trait in a bookseller. I don't feed trolls. Troll = someone who points out your error? That makes 6%, or more, of your Amazon customers trolls? Nice to know. I'm not a troll, but I'm also no longer a potential customer.I |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
Look in the mirror, Troll. I will not make a single further comment
to such a obvious and stunningly tedious Usenet Troll as yourself. Go away now, hide under your bridge. Troll feeding station is CLOSED. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 12:10 pm, wrote:
On Mar 2, 12:39 pm, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: On Mar 2, 11:37 am, wrote: On Mar 2, 11:34 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: On Mar 2, 9:08 am, wrote: On Mar 2, 8:47 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: I have 94% + feedback on amazon, over 365 days. I have 99.6% + feedback lifetime on ebay with the same customer service and policies. My copies of 'Picatrix' are indeed genuinely brand new, as I purchased them directly from the publisher. Here is real feedback from Seattle_Bookseller: What does feedback FROM Seattle_Bookseller prove? That you compliment your buyers? The feedback I cut and pasted is posted in public and was left BY MY CUSTOMERS FOR ME. You are incorrect in your statements. That incorrect statement was yours, and I quoted it back to you. Perhaps proofreading your posts would help get your point across, and improve your business practices? Inattention to detail is not a desirable trait in a bookseller. I don't feed trolls. Troll = someone who points out your error? That makes 6%, or more, of your Amazon customers trolls? Nice to know. I'm not a troll, but I'm also no longer a potential customer.I I most certainly do not need or want your business. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 3:12 pm, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: Look in the mirror, Troll. I will not make a single further comment to such a obvious and stunningly tedious Usenet Troll as yourself. Go away now, hide under your bridge. Troll feeding station is CLOSED. Yep, that's it. Anyone who calls you on your silly **** is a troll. FYI I've been posting to this group for at least a decade. Now go back to blaming the Post Office for your customers' disatisfaction. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 3:14 pm, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: I most certainly do not need or want your business. If your Amazon feedback rating gets any lower you'll be paying people to take your books off your hands. If you want to know why your customers hate you, I suggest you examine your attitude as demonstarted in your recent posts. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 12:25 pm, "Bob F." wrote:
On Mar 2, 3:12 pm, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: Look in the mirror, Troll. I will not make a single further comment to such a obvious and stunningly tedious Usenet Troll as yourself. Go away now, hide under your bridge. Troll feeding station is CLOSED. Yep, that's it. Anyone who calls you on your silly **** is a troll. FYI I've been posting to this group for at least a decade. Now go back to blaming the Post Office for your customers' disatisfaction. A decade on usenet is the last thing in the universe I would brag of. Its worse than and too often concomitant with three decades of living in your mother's basement. But Trolls don't like the Light. I have almost 200 books to pack and ship now - so long Troll. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 12:28 pm, "Bob F." wrote:
On Mar 2, 3:14 pm, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: I most certainly do not need or want your business. If your Amazon feedback rating gets any lower you'll be paying people to take your books off your hands. If you want to know why your customers hate you, I suggest you examine your attitude as demonstarted in your recent posts. Gee, I still somehow have my 99.6% + on Ebay, whatever will I do? I will go and pack up my 200 orders. Dude, I have a better rating than POWELL'S BOOKS on amazon. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 3:30 pm, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: A decade on usenet is the last thing in the universe I would brag of. Its worse than and too often concomitant with three decades of living in your mother's basement. Hey dipstick, didn't you just get finished saying you weren't going to respond to my posts? You won't get far insulting the regulars of this group, most of whom have been here as long, if not longer, than me. But Trolls don't like the Light. Troll = anybody who doesn't agree with you? I have almost 200 books to pack and ship now Yeah, sure! - so long Troll. Bye-bye asshole. |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 2, 3:32 pm, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: On Mar 2, 12:28 pm, "Bob F." wrote: On Mar 2, 3:14 pm, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: I most certainly do not need or want your business. If your Amazon feedback rating gets any lower you'll be paying people to take your books off your hands. If you want to know why your customers hate you, I suggest you examine your attitude as demonstarted in your recent posts. Gee, I still somehow have my 99.6% + on Ebay, whatever will I do? I will go and pack up my 200 orders. Dude, I have a better rating than POWELL'S BOOKS on amazon. DUDE?!?!?!?! What are you, 12 years old? No, that's an insult to 12 year olds everywhere. I guess you're just an everyday, run-of-the-mill asshole with delusions of grandeur! |
Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 10, 10:18 am, "Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)"
wrote: I own a pristine copy of a volume titled "The Picatrix", published by Ourobouros Press in 2001 in a limited edition of 1000 copies (mine is #331). I'm doing an appraisal of the current value of this book, so I searched Bookfinder to see what was listed there. There are several copies listed, ranging in price from a low of $204 to a high of over $500 (the latter from a Seattle brick and mortar store for a copy with a scuff on the cover!) One of the outliers, pricing a copy at $430, was an outfit called "seattle_bookseller". I wrote and asked why the price was so high, and got an amazingly vituperative and abusive response, stating that this "WAS HOW THE RARE BOOK BUSINESS WORKED" and that I "NEED A COURSE IN REMEDIAL ECONOMICS" and so on. seattle_booksellers subsequent posts proved that you are telling the absolute truth. He's a miserable ******* (not that that's neccesarily a bad thing) and probably would not have been out of place on the old NYC 4th Avenue "Booksellers Row". BTW: Here's his latest feedbacl, a bit worse then he stated (surprise!) Feedback 30 days 90 days 365 days Lifetime Positive: 96% 94% 94% 93% Neutral: 0% 0% 1% 2% Negative: 4% 6% 4% 5% Count: 74 176 412 721 So 5% of his 721 sales (that's 36 buyers, folks) thought his service sucked. And 2% thought it just so-so (14 buyers). That's at least 50 people out of 721 who were underwhelmed by his books and/or service. For a guy that claims to ship "almost 200 books" a day, he sure doesn't have many customers, esp. happy ones! |
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