Australia~ "AR" card.
 

Is someone able to explain the subtleties of difference
between a common "Registered Letter" and this "AR" (Avis de Reception) card?

Carnarvon Western Australia to Nullagine Western Australia 6d via air
(assuming Trans West Airlines)

Nullagine's population is assumed low (100-200?), due to the single name
adressee.

http://cjoint.com/data/gtgsZaLU0Z.htm
http://cjoint.com/data/gtgxSssAfS.htm

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:26:31 +0800, rodney wrote:

Is someone able to explain the subtleties of difference between a common
"Registered Letter" and this "AR" (Avis de Reception) card?

I'm interested in the answer as well (paging Blair) because, in a weird
bit of synchronicity, an automatic alert for this Delcampe auction was
waiting in my inbox tonight: http://tr.im/p1cn (it matched a different
parameter for which I'm watching.)

'AR' and 'Registered Mail' are both used on this cover.

--
Joshua H. McGee
San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

You may have solved our question :)
I see "return receipt requested" which differs from ordinary
registered mail, if I am not mistake.
Registered mail simply requires a signature from the recipient.
AR must offer this hard signature back to the addressor as proof .

I am trying to justify this idea, with proof in the sixpenny postage on
mine,
but cannot until I find the possible air-route of my card.

I wonder how the card took the journey with the letter? a laccy band? twine?



"Joshua McGee" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:26:31 +0800, rodney wrote:

Is someone able to explain the subtleties of difference between a common
"Registered Letter" and this "AR" (Avis de Reception) card?

I'm interested in the answer as well (paging Blair) because, in a weird
bit of synchronicity, an automatic alert for this Delcampe auction was
waiting in my inbox tonight: http://tr.im/p1cn (it matched a different
parameter for which I'm watching.)

'AR' and 'Registered Mail' are both used on this cover.

--
Joshua H. McGee
San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

From the "off-list" intelligentsia. (Thank you very much)

Item 753 of USPS

753 Return Receipt
753.1 Completion of Return Receipt Form
Inbound registered or insured mail for which the sender requests advice or
confirmation of delivery will be endorsed with the words "AVIS DE RECEPTION"
or with the letters "A.R.," and be accompanied by a light red or pink card
similar to PS Form 2865, Return Receipt for International Mail. The office
of delivery must complete the receipt as follows:

a. Have the addressee or an authorized agent date and sign the receipt with
ink. When signed by an agent of the addressee, have the agent sign the
addressee's name, followed by his or her own signature.

b. Postmark the receipt in the appropriate spaces on both sides.

c. Endorse the completed receipt "AIRMAIL" and dispatch it as unregistered
mail.

http://pe.usps.com/IMM_Archive/HTML/...immc7_005.html









"Joshua McGee" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:26:31 +0800, rodney wrote:

Is someone able to explain the subtleties of difference between a common
"Registered Letter" and this "AR" (Avis de Reception) card?

I'm interested in the answer as well (paging Blair) because, in a weird
bit of synchronicity, an automatic alert for this Delcampe auction was
waiting in my inbox tonight: http://tr.im/p1cn (it matched a different
parameter for which I'm watching.)

'AR' and 'Registered Mail' are both used on this cover.

--
Joshua H. McGee
San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:55:18 +0800, rodney wrote:

c. Endorse the completed receipt "AIRMAIL" and dispatch it as
unregistered mail.

Without that final criterion, we might get a fascinating snail-mail-loop:
like an email loop, only a billion times slower. :^)

--
Joshua H. McGee
San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

On Jun 19, 6:43*pm, Joshua McGee wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:55:18 +0800, rodney wrote:
c. Endorse the completed receipt "AIRMAIL" and dispatch it as
unregistered mail.

Without that final criterion, we might get a fascinating snail-mail-loop:
like an email loop, only a billion times slower. *:^)

--
Joshua H. McGee
San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?:http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/

I see that you two have figured it out.
I have many AR cards in my collection.


CANADA
10c Parliament on AR card to Kwongtung , China
FROM Duncan , BC - Jun 14 1945 -

10c franking pays the fee for the Acknowledgement
of Receipt card for registered mail - Chinese receiving
cancel on back - http://www.cdncovers.com/d8.jpg


AUSTRALIA 1945 UNUSED AR CARD
http://www.tsauctions.com/contents/media/au617.jpg


IRAN TO LATVIA AND RETURNED TO IRAN 1946
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/2/6...39208651_o.jpg

The pink cards were stapled or taped to the back
of the registered letter. They were removed upon
delivery, stamped , and mailed back to sender.

Later the pink cards had a detachable gummed tab
along one end of the card. The gummed tab was used
to stick the card to the registered mail.

Upon delivery, the card was removed (there were perfs
between the card and the tab to do this) while the tab
was left on the registered cover.


Blair

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

A collector has got hold of this,
you can see the "Scott" number pencilled at the bottom :)

"Blair"
IRAN TO LATVIA AND RETURNED TO IRAN 1946
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/2/6...39208651_o.jpg

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

In a recent message Blair wrote:

On Jun 19, 6:43*pm, Joshua McGee wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:55:18 +0800, rodney wrote:
c. Endorse the completed receipt "AIRMAIL" and dispatch it as
unregistered mail.

Without that final criterion, we might get a fascinating snail-mail-loop:
like an email loop, only a billion times slower. *:^)

--
Joshua H. McGee
San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?:http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/

I see that you two have figured it out.
I have many AR cards in my collection.


CANADA
10c Parliament on AR card to Kwongtung , China
FROM Duncan , BC - Jun 14 1945 -

10c franking pays the fee for the Acknowledgement
of Receipt card for registered mail - Chinese receiving
cancel on back - http://www.cdncovers.com/d8.jpg


AUSTRALIA 1945 UNUSED AR CARD
http://www.tsauctions.com/contents/media/au617.jpg


IRAN TO LATVIA AND RETURNED TO IRAN 1946
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/2/6...39208651_o.jpg

The pink cards were stapled or taped to the back
of the registered letter. They were removed upon
delivery, stamped , and mailed back to sender.

Later the pink cards had a detachable gummed tab
along one end of the card. The gummed tab was used
to stick the card to the registered mail.

Upon delivery, the card was removed (there were perfs
between the card and the tab to do this) while the tab
was left on the registered cover.


Blair

Well you learn something every day. I have been collecting
stamps for more years than I care to count (well over 50 anyway)
and I was not aware of the prevalence, never mind the
existence, of these AR cards!

--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK : http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... What can you do at 3 AM? Psssttt - got a modem??

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

Thanks for that Blair,
I still have to do homework.
According to a West Aussie Airways specialist (not routes)
http://cjoint.com/data/guiubFUxmf.htm

Which explains the trip of mine 3d each way Carnarvon to Perth
then Perth to Nullagine.
However plain mail back to the addressor was free?

I feel "Transwest" aust probably took it from Carnarvon to Nullagine
then ordinary mail back to Carnarvon
which has the AR card over franked.

A nice little mystery to solve.



"Blair"
The pink cards were stapled or taped to the back
of the registered letter. They were removed upon
delivery, stamped , and mailed back to sender.

Later the pink cards had a detachable gummed tab
along one end of the card. The gummed tab was used
to stick the card to the registered mail.

Upon delivery, the card was removed (there were perfs
between the card and the tab to do this) while the tab
was left on the registered cover.

Australia~ "AR" card.
 

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:25:17 +0800, rodney wrote:

Which explains the trip of mine 3d each way Carnarvon to Perth then
Perth to Nullagine.
However plain mail back to the addressor was free?

I cannot imagine that would be the case. Prior to this week, all
Registered covers of that era that I have seen were simply that --
Registered and not AR. If AR return postage was free, why wouldn't
everyone request it?

Maybe, like us, no one had heard of it? :^)

--
Joshua H. McGee
San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/