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Fred Shecter May 28th 05 11:47 PM

Bank teller tells me that dollar bill WILL be replaced by Golden Dollar coin!
 
I went into a bank I frequent and there was a teller I did not recognize. As
luck would have it, I ended up being served by him. I changed some Twos for
MN quarter rolls. He was all excited about the Twos and proceded to tell me
several things, without any prompting or input from me:
1) He works in some capacity to service multiple branches - supplying them
with money wrappers and many other items and services. (I got the impression
he was filling in as a teller with so many normal tellers on vacation).
2) People always ask for Twos and they seldom have any. And they seldom
order any (you all know that story...).
3) He was going to keep those Twos for those who ask for them and he
expected them to be gone fast.
4) He then proceeded to tell me about a meeting he attended. I could not
tell if it was a meeting or a focus group or a briefing. I also did not
probe to find out if it was just for his bank or if it was for mutiple
banks/ armored carriers/ business leaders. It sounded like it was either
conducted by the Federal Reserve, the Treasury (Mint/BEP). Here is what he
told me.
* Presidential Dollar coins are coming soon (we know that from following the
legislation which calls for 2007- maybe they can move that up to 2006 or
maybe they need the extra year to tweak the alloy for maximum shininess?).
* Dollar bills will be gone by 2015. (that lines up good with the duration
of the Presidential Golden Dollar Coin program).
* Banks and businesses who order dollars will get Golden Dollars. Period.
(Not sure if that will wait until 2015 or if they can do that earlier).
* They looked at weaning folks off the $1 bill by flooding the USA with $2
bills, but they may just stop printing Twos and use the $5 bill and the
Golden Dollar Coins. (I imagine that if people started using tons of Twos
they might keep printing them, BUT if the intent is to transition folks over
to dollar coins, then using more Twos would work against that goal.).

Any reports on this in the media? Coin World? Anybody?

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Padraic Brown May 29th 05 04:42 AM

On Sat, 28 May 2005 22:47:18 GMT, "Fred Shecter"
wrote:

* They looked at weaning folks off the $1 bill by flooding the USA with $2
bills, but they may just stop printing Twos and use the $5 bill and the
Golden Dollar Coins.


Well, we all here know that "weaning" doesn't work. Didn't work in
1979 nor in 2000. This is one instance where cold turkey is the only
feasable way.

On the other hand, they WOULD have to flood America with nasty Dead
Presidents...

I am reminded of the old maxim: 'Be careful what you wish for'. With
the exception of the "dollar coins are too heavy to carry" fogeys,
almost everyone here (me incl.) has wished they would be rid of the
rag dollar in favour of the coin. Looks like we're going to get just
that, only with Willam Harrison's mug on in stead of some more
attractive Liberty.

Who was William Harrison? The US president whose ONLY claims to fame
are 1)longest inaugural speech, 2) shortest term in office (hint: the
two are almost the same length), 3) will have his mug on a dollar
coin.

BORING! The Dutch euro coins are more exciting.

Padraic.

la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu
ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu.

A.E. Gelat May 29th 05 04:47 AM

This is incredible! If the presidential dollar coins are the size of the
golden dollars, they too will fail, and the dollar bill will survive. I am
all for eliminating the bill, but the replacement coin must be small,
perhaps even smaller than the quarter.

Tony

"Fred Shecter" wrote in message
ink.net...
I went into a bank I frequent and there was a teller I did not recognize.
As luck would have it, I ended up being served by him. I changed some Twos
for MN quarter rolls. He was all excited about the Twos and proceded to
tell me several things, without any prompting or input from me:
1) He works in some capacity to service multiple branches - supplying them
with money wrappers and many other items and services. (I got the
impression he was filling in as a teller with so many normal tellers on
vacation).
2) People always ask for Twos and they seldom have any. And they seldom
order any (you all know that story...).
3) He was going to keep those Twos for those who ask for them and he
expected them to be gone fast.
4) He then proceeded to tell me about a meeting he attended. I could not
tell if it was a meeting or a focus group or a briefing. I also did not
probe to find out if it was just for his bank or if it was for mutiple
banks/ armored carriers/ business leaders. It sounded like it was either
conducted by the Federal Reserve, the Treasury (Mint/BEP). Here is what he
told me.
* Presidential Dollar coins are coming soon (we know that from following
the legislation which calls for 2007- maybe they can move that up to 2006
or maybe they need the extra year to tweak the alloy for maximum
shininess?).
* Dollar bills will be gone by 2015. (that lines up good with the duration
of the Presidential Golden Dollar Coin program).
* Banks and businesses who order dollars will get Golden Dollars. Period.
(Not sure if that will wait until 2015 or if they can do that earlier).
* They looked at weaning folks off the $1 bill by flooding the USA with $2
bills, but they may just stop printing Twos and use the $5 bill and the
Golden Dollar Coins. (I imagine that if people started using tons of Twos
they might keep printing them, BUT if the intent is to transition folks
over to dollar coins, then using more Twos would work against that goal.).

Any reports on this in the media? Coin World? Anybody?

--
-Fred Shecter
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Scott Stevenson May 29th 05 06:18 AM

On Sat, 28 May 2005 22:47:34 -0500, "A.E. Gelat"
wrote:

This is incredible! If the presidential dollar coins are the size of the
golden dollars, they too will fail, and the dollar bill will survive. I am
all for eliminating the bill, but the replacement coin must be small,
perhaps even smaller than the quarter.

Tony


Why would it need to be smaller than a quarter? What is wrong with
the current size?

take care,
Scott

Scott Stevenson May 29th 05 06:23 AM

On Sat, 28 May 2005 23:42:57 -0400, Padraic Brown
wrote:

On Sat, 28 May 2005 22:47:18 GMT, "Fred Shecter"
wrote:

* They looked at weaning folks off the $1 bill by flooding the USA with $2
bills, but they may just stop printing Twos and use the $5 bill and the
Golden Dollar Coins.


Well, we all here know that "weaning" doesn't work. Didn't work in
1979 nor in 2000. This is one instance where cold turkey is the only
feasable way.

On the other hand, they WOULD have to flood America with nasty Dead
Presidents...

I am reminded of the old maxim: 'Be careful what you wish for'. With
the exception of the "dollar coins are too heavy to carry" fogeys,
almost everyone here (me incl.) has wished they would be rid of the
rag dollar in favour of the coin. Looks like we're going to get just
that, only with Willam Harrison's mug on in stead of some more
attractive Liberty.

Who was William Harrison? The US president whose ONLY claims to fame
are 1)longest inaugural speech, 2) shortest term in office (hint: the
two are almost the same length), 3) will have his mug on a dollar
coin.


He was also the oldest president at his inaguration (until Reagan),
he was the grandfather of a future president (Benjamin Harrison). He
was also a former general, made famous by the battle of Tippecanoe..


take care,
Scott
"...when I dream about the moonlight on the Wabash..."

Michael G. Koerner May 29th 05 06:43 AM

Scott Stevenson wrote:

On Sat, 28 May 2005 22:47:34 -0500, "A.E. Gelat"
wrote:

This is incredible! If the presidential dollar coins are the size of the
golden dollars, they too will fail, and the dollar bill will survive. I am
all for eliminating the bill, but the replacement coin must be small,
perhaps even smaller than the quarter.

Tony


Why would it need to be smaller than a quarter? What is wrong with
the current size?


Seems to work fine at that size in Canuckistan.

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Bob Peterson May 29th 05 11:55 AM

I can't imagine they would change the size again. That would just be too
confusing.

My guess is the only way people will accept the $1 coin is if the $1 bill
goes away. If there is a choice, the bill wins, and by a big margin.

"Scott Stevenson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 May 2005 22:47:34 -0500, "A.E. Gelat"
wrote:

This is incredible! If the presidential dollar coins are the size of the
golden dollars, they too will fail, and the dollar bill will survive. I
am
all for eliminating the bill, but the replacement coin must be small,
perhaps even smaller than the quarter.

Tony


Why would it need to be smaller than a quarter? What is wrong with
the current size?

take care,
Scott




A.E. Gelat May 29th 05 04:49 PM


"Michael G. Koerner" wrote in message
...
Scott Stevenson wrote:

On Sat, 28 May 2005 22:47:34 -0500, "A.E. Gelat"
wrote:

This is incredible! If the presidential dollar coins are the size of
the
golden dollars, they too will fail, and the dollar bill will survive. I
am
all for eliminating the bill, but the replacement coin must be small,
perhaps even smaller than the quarter.



Why would it need to be smaller than a quarter? What is wrong with
the current size?


Weight and bulk

Tony



Seems to work fine at that size in Canuckistan.

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tony Regards, | |\ ____
| | | | |\
Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise
again!
Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | |
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A.E. Gelat May 29th 05 04:56 PM


"Scott Stevenson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 May 2005 22:47:34 -0500, "A.E. Gelat"
wrote:

This is incredible! If the presidential dollar coins are the size of the
golden dollars, they too will fail, and the dollar bill will survive. I
am
all for eliminating the bill, but the replacement coin must be small,
perhaps even smaller than the quarter.

Tony


Why would it need to be smaller than a quarter? What is wrong with
the current size?

take care,
Scott


If the dollar bill goes away and is replaced by dollar coins of today's
size,
people will not use them because of the weight and bulk. That will be
another boondoggle. How often do you get any of the current dollar
coins anywhere except at stamp vending machines? In the UK, the
1 pound coin (worth about $1.80) is the size a nickel and has been
accepted by the public.

Tony




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Kay Archer May 29th 05 07:26 PM


"A.E. Gelat" wrote in message
...
This is incredible! If the presidential dollar coins are the size of the
golden dollars, they too will fail, and the dollar bill will survive. I

am
all for eliminating the bill, but the replacement coin must be small,
perhaps even smaller than the quarter.

If the Susan B's had actually been 12-sided as promised, they may have been
more acceptable for the general user. And no need for the larger 'golden'
dollar.




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