Query about frontispiece from old book
 

I know this is a shot in the dark, but---

Anyone have any idea what book this frontispiece may be from:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ade/skels1.jpg

--or can anyone recommend a good place to ask? I'm looking to find an
original or at least a 300 dpi high res scan of the image.

Thanks so much for your time!

Brian

Dallas, TX

Query about frontispiece from old book
 

CP Baudelaire wrote:
I know this is a shot in the dark, but---

Anyone have any idea what book this frontispiece may be from:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ade/skels1.jpg

--or can anyone recommend a good place to ask? I'm looking to find an
original or at least a 300 dpi high res scan of the image.

Thanks so much for your time!

Brian

Dallas, TX

Dear Brian,

It doesn't look so much like a frontispiece as it does like a vignette.
Possibly as TP vignette or a vignette on the last page of the book. I
am not familiar with it, though.

I do see something which looks like initials in the lowest form. That
might help you to identify the thing, with the name of the draftsman or
engraver.

Actually, there is a lot of good information buried on the plates in
books, and not referred to by many librarians or bibliographers. One of
the reasons I like the AAS[MWA] catalog so much is that they almost
always list the draftsman and the printmaker, as well as the names of
all the craftsmen involved in a book including the printer and
stereotyper. That gives their descriptions a lot of currency. They also
will mention the changing address of any of these as an aid to
establishing the issue or date of publication.

Some of their dating feels almost miraculous, since it is based on the
dates at which various titles advertised in a book were published,
working from catalogs of the publisher involved. This enables them to
work out a date of publication very precisely, even without a date or a
copyright date in the book.
Sincerely,
Annibale

Query about frontispiece from old book
 

Annibale wrote:
CP Baudelaire wrote:
I know this is a shot in the dark, but---

Anyone have any idea what book this frontispiece may be from:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ade/skels1.jpg
It doesn't look so much like a frontispiece as it does like a vignette.
Possibly as TP vignette or a vignette on the last page of the book. I
am not familiar with it, though.

I do see something which looks like initials in the lowest form. That
might help you to identify the thing, with the name of the draftsman or
engraver.

I can't quite make out the initials, but it's possible they are HH -
which makes me think of Hans Holbien. He did "The Dance of Death" in
1538. The style is similar... although I'm not sure the image you have
is a woodcut; it's hard to tell.

Andrew Jr.
===
Andrew Cornwall

Query about frontispiece from old book
 

CP Baudelaire wrote:

Anyone have any idea what book this frontispiece may be from:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ade/skels1.jpg


Another thought is that this is an emblem from an "emblem book."
Skulls, skeletons, and other images of death were common enough symbols
in emblems.

I don't know the literature well enough to suggest how to "source" a
particular free-floating emblem, but this site might give you a start:

http://emblem.libraries.psu.edu

William M. Klimon
http://www.gateofbliss.com

Query about frontispiece from old book
 

Annibale wrote:

Actually, there is a lot of good information buried on the plates in
books, and not referred to by many librarians or bibliographers. One of
the reasons I like the AAS[MWA] catalog so much is that they almost
always list the draftsman and the printmaker, as well as the names of
all the craftsmen involved in a book including the printer and
stereotyper. That gives their descriptions a lot of currency. They also
will mention the changing address of any of these as an aid to
establishing the issue or date of publication.


I concur. The American Antiquarian Society's catalogue is a marvel.
It is jam-packed with information. If your item falls within their
purview, their catalogue is definitely worth checking out:

http://www.americanantiquarian.org/library.htm

William M. Klimon
http://www.gateofbliss.com

Query about frontispiece from old book
 

"CP Baudelaire" wrote in message
ups.com...
I know this is a shot in the dark, but---

Anyone have any idea what book this frontispiece may be from:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ade/skels1.jpg

--or can anyone recommend a good place to ask? I'm looking to find an
original or at least a 300 dpi high res scan of the image.

Thanks so much for your time!

Brian

Dallas, TX


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Query about frontispiece from old book
 

"Annibale" wrote in message
ps.com...

CP Baudelaire wrote:
I know this is a shot in the dark, but---

Anyone have any idea what book this frontispiece may be from:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ade/skels1.jpg

--or can anyone recommend a good place to ask? I'm looking to find an
original or at least a 300 dpi high res scan of the image.

Thanks so much for your time!

Brian

Dallas, TX

Dear Brian,

It doesn't look so much like a frontispiece as it does like a vignette.
Possibly as TP vignette or a vignette on the last page of the book. I
am not familiar with it, though.

I do see something which looks like initials in the lowest form. That
might help you to identify the thing, with the name of the draftsman or
engraver.

Actually, there is a lot of good information buried on the plates in
books, and not referred to by many librarians or bibliographers. One of
the reasons I like the AAS[MWA] catalog so much is that they almost
always list the draftsman and the printmaker, as well as the names of
all the craftsmen involved in a book including the printer and
stereotyper. That gives their descriptions a lot of currency. They also
will mention the changing address of any of these as an aid to
establishing the issue or date of publication.

Some of their dating feels almost miraculous, since it is based on the
dates at which various titles advertised in a book were published,
working from catalogs of the publisher involved. This enables them to
work out a date of publication very precisely, even without a date or a
copyright date in the book.
Sincerely,
Annibale

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Query about frontispiece from old book
 

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Annibale wrote:
CP Baudelaire wrote:
I know this is a shot in the dark, but---

Anyone have any idea what book this frontispiece may be from:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ade/skels1.jpg
It doesn't look so much like a frontispiece as it does like a vignette.
Possibly as TP vignette or a vignette on the last page of the book. I
am not familiar with it, though.

I do see something which looks like initials in the lowest form. That
might help you to identify the thing, with the name of the draftsman or
engraver.

I can't quite make out the initials, but it's possible they are HH -
which makes me think of Hans Holbien. He did "The Dance of Death" in
1538. The style is similar... although I'm not sure the image you have
is a woodcut; it's hard to tell.

Andrew Jr.
===
Andrew Cornwall


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Query about frontispiece from old book
 

"William M. Klimon" wrote in message
ps.com...
CP Baudelaire wrote:

Anyone have any idea what book this frontispiece may be from:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ade/skels1.jpg


Another thought is that this is an emblem from an "emblem book."
Skulls, skeletons, and other images of death were common enough symbols
in emblems.

I don't know the literature well enough to suggest how to "source" a
particular free-floating emblem, but this site might give you a start:

http://emblem.libraries.psu.edu

William M. Klimon
http://www.gateofbliss.com


-----------------------------------------------------------
Reposted so as to help clear some of the rubbish from the
listings and cache, which may otherwise deter casual readers

Query about frontispiece from old book
 

"William M. Klimon" wrote in message
ups.com...
Annibale wrote:

Actually, there is a lot of good information buried on the plates in
books, and not referred to by many librarians or bibliographers. One of
the reasons I like the AAS[MWA] catalog so much is that they almost
always list the draftsman and the printmaker, as well as the names of
all the craftsmen involved in a book including the printer and
stereotyper. That gives their descriptions a lot of currency. They also
will mention the changing address of any of these as an aid to
establishing the issue or date of publication.


I concur. The American Antiquarian Society's catalogue is a marvel.
It is jam-packed with information. If your item falls within their
purview, their catalogue is definitely worth checking out:

http://www.americanantiquarian.org/library.htm

William M. Klimon
http://www.gateofbliss.com


-----------------------------------------------------------
Reposted so as to help clear some of the rubbish from the
listings and cache, which may otherwise deter casual readers